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  • shmeddie
    Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 215

    What dies will I need?

    Hey everyone,
    I am currently reloading .45 acp and am extremely pleased with the reduction in cost and the quality ammo I am getting. Now I am going to start reloading for .223 rem. I will be shooting it from a Saiga .223. When I purchased my .45 dies it was easy I just bought the lee delux carbide pistol set that has everything I need. But the the .223 there are like several different sets. One has a a neck sizer, full case sizer, and seating die. Then there is the crimper/ full case sizing die, etc. What do I need to reload for .223 intended to shoot from a semi auto? Thanks. By the way I'm going with lee reloading dies. Just a preference.

    Also I see that there is not a case neck expander for rifles. Is that because it doesn't need it? I've mad the mistake before of not expandinig my .45 brass enough and ruined both the shell and the bullet.
    Last edited by shmeddie; 10-06-2009, 3:56 PM.
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    NRAhighpowershooter
    Super Moderator
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jun 2003
    • 6485

    you only need a 2 die set...
    full length sizer die and a
    seating/crimping die.
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    • #3
      DirtRacer151
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2008
      • 2713

      Originally posted by NRAhighpowershooter
      you only need a 2 die set...
      full length sizer die and a
      seating/crimping die.
      +1
      I use a Lee set. 14.99 on Midway. Works like a dream and i've got about 10k through my first one. Its time to order a new one though because the necks are getting scratched from inside the die being gouged im presuming
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      • #4
        shmeddie
        Member
        • Oct 2008
        • 215

        ok cool. I should have added that my gun sometimes dents the the tip of the case where the bullet is seated. Will the full case sizer take care of that?
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        • #5
          WileyWilly
          Senior Member
          • May 2008
          • 506

          I haven't seen a sizer die that didn't have an internal neck expander built into it. It will take care of small dents on the tip of the case.
          You will also need some form of case lubrication before sizing.
          WW

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          • #6
            Fjold
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Oct 2005
            • 22997

            Originally posted by shmeddie
            ok cool. I should have added that my gun sometimes dents the the tip of the case where the bullet is seated. Will the full case sizer take care of that?
            Yes
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            • #7
              ZakAttackMan
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 519

              Originally posted by shmeddie
              ok cool. I should have added that my gun sometimes dents the the tip of the case where the bullet is seated. Will the full case sizer take care of that?
              Why not just shoot wolf .223 ammo?

              I reload for most of my rifles except for my 7.62 x 39 Saiga. I just run wolf through it due to the amount of brass damage it does and the fact that I'm not saving that much money reloading for it over the use of cheap ammo.

              I would rather save the time I have for reloading for other rifles that are more accurate and actually worth the effort.

              Just my opinion.

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              • #8
                shmeddie
                Member
                • Oct 2008
                • 215

                I have a ton of wolf ammo and I would prefer to shoot that, but my local ranges (angeles and burro canyon), are located in the angeles national forest (right in the thick of two the recent fires) and because of the fire prone location we can't shoot bimetal ammo so there are no sparks and stuff. Only copper jacketed rifle ammo.
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                • #9
                  freakshow10mm
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 3061

                  I like to seat and crimp in separate operations.

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