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  • novaman64
    Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 180

    Need some quickload help for a .260

    Trying to work up some loads for a new 260 rem...

    Berger 140 VLD Hunting Bullet

    25" barrel
    1:8 twist
    using WLR primers (if it matters)
  • #2
    Rugersworld
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 76

    Alot of guys I shoot long range with use H4831SC. Some use H4350 but you will reach presure signs before you will get the velocity you want to push those 140's in an 8 twist barrel. RL17 may also be good.
    The load I use with H4831SC, and DO NOT copy this exacy load as I have a shorter lead and a match chamber, is 46.7gr , 142 SMK, col to ogive with a 5-26 collet is around 2.258", fed 210M primers. This load is compressed with my oal. You may be able to seat further out with the 140vld.

    A couple guys shoot 139 scenars over a compressed load and shoot fine. The bergers I heard like speed, plus your twist will rob some velocity from you.

    Good shooting.

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    • #3
      novaman64
      Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 180

      My barrel maker to help me out, said he had a new 3 groove design which would give a little bit of speed, so thats what my barrel is... I was just looking for some quick load numbers to get me started somewhere. Right now I have 1lb of H4350 and was debating picking up either IMR4831, H4831 or H4831SC... My Speer manual shows that the best velocity with the heavier bullets is with the Reloader 19 or the IMR4831....

      Anyways, thats why I wanted the quick load data...

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      • #4
        ar15barrels
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2006
        • 57175

        Bump this around noon and I'll try to remember to run it when I am home for lunch.
        Randall Rausch

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        • #5
          novaman64
          Member
          • Apr 2009
          • 180

          Cool, thanks AR....

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          • #6
            novaman64
            Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 180

            BTT

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            • #7
              Rugersworld
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 76

              Who is your barrel maker?
              I have a Pac-nor 3 groove, 8 twist, 28" long
              Shooting 142 SMK @ approx 2775 fps with H4831SC

              Check the Hodgdon site also.

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              • #8
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57175

                Code:
                Cartridge          : .260 Rem
                Bullet             : .264, 140, Berger VLD
                Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch or 71.12 mm
                Barrel Length      : 25.0 inch or 635.0 mm
                
                Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
                
                Matching Maximum Pressure: 60000 psi, or 413 MPa
                
                or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 106 %
                
                These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
                C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
                loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
                that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
                and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
                USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
                
                49 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 80%. These powders have been skipped.
                
                Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
                ---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
                Ramshot Hunter                     101.2     43.8     2.84    2841    99.8    60000   10825   1.231  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
                Alliant Reloder-19                 105.7     44.3     2.87    2840    98.4    60000   11132   1.226  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
                Hodgdon H4350                      100.8     42.0     2.72    2840    99.9    60000   10592   1.224  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
                IMR 7828 SSC                       106.0     45.6     2.96    2840    96.8    57320   11616   1.237  ! Near Maximum !
                Winchester 760                      95.5     42.3     2.74    2834    99.5    60000   10760   1.235  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
                Alliant Reloder-17                  93.1     40.9     2.65    2829   100.0    60000   10080   1.222  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
                IMR 4350                           103.3     41.5     2.69    2823    99.6    60000   10507   1.231  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
                Vihtavuori N550                     97.7     41.8     2.71    2820   100.0    60000   10427   1.244  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
                Accurate 4350                      104.6     41.9     2.72    2818   100.0    60000   10250   1.255  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
                Vihtavuori N560                    106.0     45.4     2.94    2813    95.8    53968   11857   1.275  ! Near Maximum !
                Hodgdon H414                        93.0     41.5     2.69    2810    99.4    60000   10562   1.245  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
                IMR 4831                           105.7     42.4     2.75    2803   100.0    60000   10073   1.249  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
                Ramshot BigGame                     93.8     40.6     2.63    2798   100.0    60000    9851   1.240  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
                Alliant Reloder-22                 106.0     44.9     2.91    2791    97.6    53340   11473   1.286  ! Near Maximum !
                Winchester Supreme 780             104.1     46.0     2.98    2790    98.2    60000   10604   1.231  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
                Accurate MAGPRO                    106.0     47.2     3.06    2786    93.8    52837   11880   1.291  ! Near Maximum !
                Hodgdon H4831 SC                   106.0     44.9     2.91    2786    96.2    58639   10837   1.238  ! Near Maximum !
                Alliant Reloder-15                  91.3     38.3     2.48    2776   100.0    60000    9620   1.250  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
                Hodgdon H380                        92.7     39.7     2.57    2772   100.0    60000    9832   1.254  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
                Hodgdon BL-C2                       86.3     39.5     2.56    2767   100.0    60000    9465   1.255  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
                Last edited by ar15barrels; 10-02-2009, 4:03 PM.
                Randall Rausch

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                • #9
                  novaman64
                  Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 180

                  Originally posted by Rugersworld
                  Who is your barrel maker?
                  I have a Pac-nor 3 groove, 8 twist, 28" long
                  Shooting 142 SMK @ approx 2775 fps with H4831SC

                  Check the Hodgdon site also.
                  Benchmark Barrels

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                  • #10
                    novaman64
                    Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 180

                    Thanks AR, that is exactly what I needed!

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                    • #11
                      novaman64
                      Member
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 180

                      Would you mind running this again in QL with a COAL of 2.952 please. Thanks...

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                      • #12
                        ar15barrels
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 57175

                        Originally posted by novaman64
                        Would you mind running this again in QL with a COAL of 2.952 please. Thanks...
                        Why such a long OAL?
                        Randall Rausch

                        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                        Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                        Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                        Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                        • #13
                          novaman64
                          Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 180

                          Berger VLD's and they like to be seated close to the lands, put in a wyatts mag box hoping to go longer and get some more FPS out of them.

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                          • #14
                            ar15barrels
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 57175

                            Originally posted by novaman64
                            Berger VLD's and they like to be seated close to the lands, put in a wyatts mag box hoping to go longer and get some more FPS out of them.
                            How long does the Wyatt's box allow you to seat them?
                            Randall Rausch

                            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                            Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                            Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                            • #15
                              novaman64
                              Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 180

                              2.99

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