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  • #16
    Diabolus
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 4731

    You guys are so supportive, thanks for all of the help.

    What is the most common mistake that could lead to a safety hazard while working with a progressive loading machine?
    Last edited by Diabolus; 08-31-2009, 12:24 PM.

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    • #17
      freonr22
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Dec 2008
      • 12948

      distractions
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      Originally posted by dantodd
      We will win. We are right. We will never stop fighting.
      Originally posted by bwiese
      They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
      Originally posted by louisianagirl
      Our fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.

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      • #18
        joelogic
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2008
        • 6593

        Incomplete stroke.
        Micro/Mini Reflex Red Dot Sight Mount for the M1, M1a/M14 platform

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        • #19
          5hundo
          Banned
          • Jun 2008
          • 2210

          Originally posted by popeye4
          The drawback I see with a rookie jumping right in on a big progrressive like a Dillon 650 is that you don't know what you don't know.
          +1

          Dillon progressive presses are very complicated beasts. Start small, learn the fundamentals and then move into a progressive press once you feel comfortable with your ability.

          Jumping onto a Dillon 650 for your first reloading experience would be like trying to fly a 747 with no prior aviation experience....

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          • #20
            freonr22
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Dec 2008
            • 12948

            ever think of the red koolaide?
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            Originally posted by dantodd
            We will win. We are right. We will never stop fighting.
            Originally posted by bwiese
            They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
            Originally posted by louisianagirl
            Our fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.

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            • #21
              tdc57
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2009
              • 560

              Well I don’t have a 650, but I do have a 550 and more than welcome to stop by and try it out??. I can setup some 40, 30, 357, 38, etc,etc and you can see how it all works or doesn’t work for you??

              Pm me if you want.. no biggie at all.. I’m actually going to be pumping out about 1000 rounds of 30 carbine this weekend if you up for it..

              Have a great one and best of luck in your research.. Regardless which one you chose I’m sure you’ll be happy with it!..

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              • #22
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57175

                Originally posted by popeye4
                The drawback I see with a rookie jumping right in on a big progrressive like a Dillon 650 is that you don't know what you don't know. There is a lot going on in one stroke on a Dillon and you might want to get set up with a good single stage press first. Learn the fundamentals and recognize the details that can bite you in the ***.
                The 650 can be used as a single stage press by simply removing the index cams from the side of the press.
                I recommend new reloaders do this and load their first 500 rounds as a single stage or turret press before going full progressive by re-installing the index cams.
                Randall Rausch

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                Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                • #23
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57175

                  Originally posted by Diabolus
                  You guys are so supportive, thanks for all of the help.

                  What is the most common mistake that could lead to a safety hazard while working with a progressive loading machine?
                  A double charge or a squib load.
                  The powder check station combined with auto index basically eliminates those dangers though.
                  Randall Rausch

                  AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                  Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                  Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                  Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                  Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                  • #24
                    cornflake
                    Junior Member
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 66

                    Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                    It sounds like you're talking about women.
                    Wow, I'm not a women, and new to this board. I'm surprise no one have complaint about such comment yet. Sexist comment like that often don't fly over too well in most other sites I usually visit...

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                    • #25
                      copenhagen269
                      Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 341

                      Originally posted by cornflake
                      Wow, I'm not a women, and new to this board. I'm surprise no one have complaint about such comment yet. Sexist comment like that often don't fly over too well in most other sites I usually visit...

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                      I thought it was funny.

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                      • #26
                        bruceflinch
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 40155

                        Originally posted by cornflake
                        Wow, I'm not a women, and new to this board. I'm surprise no one have complaint about such comment yet. Sexist comment like that often don't fly over too well in most other sites I usually visit...

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                        We do joke around here, it thickens up the skin....

                        I think the comment was more truthful than sexist, it's not like Women don't think Men have their issues.
                        Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

                        I belong to the group that uses firearms, and knows which bathroom to use.

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                        • #27
                          ironpete
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 299

                          As a beginner (I still am one) wanted to jump straight to a 650. I'm pretty meticulous and mechanically inclined, but I figured why the heck not start with the Rock Chucker Supreme that ar15barrels recommended. If anything I would only be out $115 and I would probably keep it for my .30-06 reloading.

                          Months later I still haven't bought the Dillon. I'm having tons of fun trying different powders, bullet weights, types of bullets, OAL. I understand if you just need cheaper ammo, but I'm glad I went this route. Once I have all the recipes for all my babies I'm sure I'll move up, but right now I'm having fun.

                          -pete
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                          Pleasure without conscience
                          Knowledge without character
                          Commerce without morality
                          Science without humanity
                          Worship without sacrifice
                          Politics without principle
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                          Rights without responsibilities
                          - Ghandi, Arun

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                          • #28
                            ar15barrels
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 57175

                            Originally posted by cornflake
                            Wow, I'm not a women, and new to this board. I'm surprise no one have complaint about such comment yet. Sexist comment like that often don't fly over too well in most other sites I usually visit...
                            I have researched women on the internet a LOT and I still don't understand them.
                            I find the solution is to jump in tounge first and let the particular sample tell you what it likes.
                            Last edited by ar15barrels; 09-01-2009, 12:46 AM.
                            Randall Rausch

                            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                            Handguns: www.handgunbarrels.com
                            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                            Most work done while you wait on a scheduled shop visit.

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                            • #29
                              cornflake
                              Junior Member
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 66

                              Originally posted by ar15barrels
                              I have researched women on the internet a LOT and I still don't understand them.
                              I find the solution is to jump in tounge first and let the particular sample tell you what it likes.
                              You know, if you actually have a women to call your own, you may actually understanding them better...

                              And, by the way, less time 'RELOADING your gun on the internet' and more time socializing with people may help!!

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                              • #30
                                CSACANNONEER
                                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 44094

                                Originally posted by polygunner
                                My first reloader was a 650.
                                Just be sure you understand every aspect of reloading before you start.
                                If there is any doubt as to what you are doing get on the internet and do research.
                                Never assume anything.
                                You'll eventually develope a system that works for you.
                                pg
                                Originally posted by cornflake
                                Wow, I'm not a women, and new to this board. I'm surprise no one have complaint about such comment yet. Sexist comment like that often don't fly over too well in most other sites I usually visit...

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                                First off, I'm sorry if I offended you or anyone else. But come on, all you would have to do is replace the word "reloading" with the word "women" and it would still be very sound advise. Right? I've never met a woman who would not agree with that. Maybe you should read some of my other posts where I've praised the shooting abilities of women. The ones who take it seriously and end up becoming competitive shooters tend to be some of the best shooters in their choosen shooting sports. I've several female friends who hold or have held various world records. I do respect them but, I still don't understand them and I try never to assume anything about them. If you fully understand women, PLEASE explain them to the rest of us male morons. Ooopps, there I go with the sexist comments against males now. Where will it stop?
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