Problem squashing 30-06 brass

[baih777]

to get those shafts out.
propane torch. heat the brass till red hot and try and pull them out.

use a file and file the necks down. 2 places 180degree from the other. try working the brass loose before you file all the way thru.

if those are lee collet die shafts. you can order new ones direct from lee.

[Rogerbutthead]

Ordered a 30-06 case gauge. Lyman

I did order replacement Lee shafts - so that is why I am still reloading, some of these items in my "F'd up stuff" box have been there for years.

Will go get a dremel as I don't like the idea of my f'ing around with a blow torch - I am pretty clumsy and stupid.

I was pretty happy with my product - re: the 30-06 but will test them with a case gauge.

Here is a side by side comparison with a factory Remington 30-06 and one of my reloads.

[baih777]

If you buy a Dremel.
GET the TWO speed version. Alot easier to control on low speed and the sanding rolls last alot longer.

[Rogerbutthead]

Two speed version, got it. Glad I took one more look before I went to Lowe's.

[JagerDog]

You have no control over what gun they were fired in if you didnt fire them in the same rifle last time so you SHOULD be concerned about both full length sizing them and getting the shoulder to an agreeable length for the specific rifle you intend to shoot them in.

^^^this.

Neck sizing is restricted to bolt action rifles using cases previously fired in that rifle.

The very FIRST paragraph in the instructions for the collet dies is:

These dies size only the case neck to hold the bullet. It?s
essential that you use only cases previously fired from your
gun. If in doubt, try them in your gun?s chamber before you
start to reload them. If they don?t fit freely, you must first
full length size them with standard Lee dies. Generally, bolt
action guns can use ammunition that has been neck sized
only. Slide and lever action or autoloading guns usually
require ammunition that has been full length sized.

https://leeprecision.com/files/instruct/RM3512.pdf

RTFM solves a lot of issues.

[ar15barrels]

RTFM solves a lot of issues.

OP has a history of posting reloading related problem threads that RTFM would have solved before they even happened.
It's all there in his posting history...

Some people learn better by doing and failing than by reading.
As a little kid, you probably touched something hot at some point and it burned you.
Did you do it again?

[Rogerbutthead]

Sad but true.

I am going blind....

[divingin]

Even in your last pic, something is obviously amiss: Shoulders completely different between the two cartridges.

[Rogerbutthead]

Will check when I get the case gauge.

[JagerDog]

OP has a history of posting reloading related problem threads that RTFM would have solved before they even happened.
It's all there in his posting history...

Some people learn better by doing and failing than by reading.
As a little kid, you probably touched something hot at some point and it burned you.
Did you do it again?

Not since I could read the first paragraph. This isn't nuances of advanced reloading practices.

I just hope he RTFM's before making fire-forming charges with Red Dot.

I don't care how many cases he damages or many rounds won't chamber or perform poorly. I do want him to proceed safely. The generally accepted MO for that is to RTFM, then RTFM again...then proceed while following the manual. It's all of 2 pages.

[JagerDog]

Even in your last pic, something is obviously amiss: Shoulders completely different between the two cartridges.

Looks so to me as well.

Right cartridge: The lack of crispness of the neck/shoulder appears to me like new brass.

Left cartridge: The neck appears to extend into where the shoulder should be.

[Rogerbutthead]

Left is the factory Remington, the right is the once fired Winchester brass round I reloaded.

Not sure if the angle or lighting is distorting the image. I thought they were alike, but again, I am going blind.

I did pass the CPA and Bar exams 35+ years ago, but I do seem to only remember - if I remember - when I have made an error prior. I have a tendency to expect things to be easy. So, yeah, I am a dumb s**t.

[hermosabeach]

https://egwguns.com/case-gauge-ammo-checker-30-06-7-hole

Our Case Gauge Ammo Checkers are machined from solid 6061 T6 aircraft grade aluminum.

Our gauges are made to SAAMI miniumum spec.

While some companies use boring bars to make chamber checkers, we use the actual Clymer reamers that are used to chamber barrels.

Anodized matte black for durability.

Measures min case diameter.

Measures max overall length.

[cz74]

OP, instead of buying unknown "once fired" brass bulk online, I buy a box of factory cheap 30-06 federal 150 grain FMJ, shoot them to fire form for my rifle and neck size or full length resize them.

[Rogerbutthead]

I appreciate all the advice. Certainly I make more than my share of mistakes.

I got the Lyman Case Length Headspace Gauge and the first 40 rounds I tested seem to pass. This is the right tool, correct? I will check all of them eventually, think I made like 800 of them.

I did put them thru two dies - not just the collet die - but not the full length resizing one as that was giving me a lot of trouble. Will be cleaning off the dies more to try to avoid problems. Thank you again for the help.