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  • Tripplet918
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2022
    • 899

    Preventing compressed load from pushing bullet out

    I have a 223 load thats compressed. It has given me inconsistent OAL as the powder can push the bullet back out.

    I have noticed that if I leave the ram in the die for a few seconds, vs just seating the bullet, I dont get the inconsistencies.

    Just sayin.
  • #2
    kcstott
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2011
    • 11796

    you need to change powders.

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    • #3
      baih777
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Jul 2011
      • 5680

      What powder, bullet ? How much are you trying to stuff in the cartridge ?

      If your compressing load that hard. I would be more worried about KABOOM.
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      • #4
        bruceflinch
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        • Jan 2006
        • 40127

        Originally posted by baih777
        What powder, bullet ? How much are you trying to stuff in the cartridge ?

        If your compressing load that hard. I would be more worried about KABOOM.
        I agree!
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        • #5
          sghart
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 1219

          There are times when I have used compressed loads. In those instances I use a healthy crimp.

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            Tripplet918
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2022
            • 899

            Originally posted by sghart
            There are times when I have used compressed loads. In those instances I use a healthy crimp.
            I havent crimped yet, thats a great suggestion.

            My 223 Varget loads are always crunchy, but well in the safe zone based on test and multiple load references.

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            • #7
              L4D
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 3053

              Originally posted by Tripplet918
              I havent crimped yet, thats a great suggestion.

              My 223 Varget loads are always crunchy, but well in the safe zone based on test and multiple load references.
              My 75gr + Varget or XBR loads are crunchy too as the bullet seats but its not compressed. I can still shake the cartridge and hear the kernels a tiny bit. Any more and it will probably be compressed.
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                Tripplet918
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2022
                • 899

                Originally posted by L4D
                My 75gr + Varget or XBR loads are crunchy too as the bullet seats but its not compressed. I can still shake the cartridge and hear the kernels a tiny bit. Any more and it will probably be compressed.
                If its crunching, I would assume you are compressed. The crunch is you crushing some kernels.

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                • #9
                  L4D
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 3053

                  Originally posted by Tripplet918
                  If its crunching, I would assume you are compressed. The crunch is you crushing some kernels.
                  its just pushing the kernels around. At my specific load, if I tap tap tap the case before seating the bullet, the kernels fill in and i dont get the crunchies.
                  I dont bother tapping them in the process. Hearing the crunch is just another confirmation that there is powder in there
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                  • #10
                    bruce381
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 2447

                    I have noticed that if I leave the ram in the die for a few seconds,

                    ok then do that

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                    • #11
                      Tripplet918
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2022
                      • 899

                      Originally posted by bruce381
                      I have noticed that if I leave the ram in the die for a few seconds,

                      ok then do that

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                      • #12
                        Beelzy
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 9224

                        Run the case tumbler and after you charge the case, cover it and set it on the tumbler for a few seconds to settle the kernels before seating the bullet.
                        Crunching powder kernels will affect ballistics.
                        "I kill things for a living, don't make yourself one of them"

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                        • #13
                          IVC
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 17594

                          Two separate solutions: more neck tension or crimp.

                          If your bullets are tapered at the bottom, such as boat tails, you can play with the neck expansion to get it to the point where it holds the compressed load. Otherwise use crimp, especially if your bullets have cannelure. Just make sure that you're not swaging the bullet while crimping and that you're not losing accuracy.

                          Finally, you can back off your load until it's not compressed, but this does not guarantee the bullet won't "walk." If you don't have correct neck tension/crimp, the bullet can move while being loaded into the chamber or even under the recoil.
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                          • #14
                            Fjold
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                            • Oct 2005
                            • 22862

                            I use a compressed load of IMR4064 in my 375 H&H magnum. I push a 300 grain Barnes TSX through about 3/8 of an inch of crunch. I use a separate crimping die and have never had a bullet try to push out.
                            Frank

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