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  • USMCmatt
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2015
    • 803

    Considering getting into reloading

    Hello all! I have been toying with the idea of getting into reloading. With the current prices of things, the savings for reloading has diminished significantly from the days of the 101 post. I don't shoot very often, mainly because ammo is expensive, but also, I have been pursuing school full time and working full time for the last two years.

    For about two years, I have accumulated gift cards from various events, birthdays, holidays, etc.. Right now, I have about $1,200 in gift cards to a local outdoor and sporting store here called Scheels. Part of me wanted to use it to get a Traeger grill, but we cannot put a grill on our patio since we are still in an apartment. I could also use it for firearms if I wanted to as well.

    To the point, I have always had an interest in reloading. I do have a healthy supply of ammo now, so access to casings once I use what I have. I currently require some of the popular rifle rounds for sport and also hunting, standard pistol rounds, and shotgun. I would likely be interested in reloading the rifle rounds, For the pistol, likely just one caliber to start with.

    I have gone to various sites with write-ups, but they are all from places trying to sell you something, so I take it with a grain of salt. I would prefer to buy nice things initially to save money down the line. I know nothing about reloading other than the basics of what you need. I have seen the Dillon Precision XL 750 on the Scheels site, and it seems to have a lot of what I would need. I know it's more advanced, but it looks like a cry once, buy once situation. I know I would need more supplies, but I was curious about what I would realistically need, assuming I source the big-ticket items from Scheels since I have gift cards.

    Thank you if you got this far!
    Last edited by USMCmatt; 04-05-2023, 4:52 PM.
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  • #2
    PogoJack
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2014
    • 2163

    Following this too brother. I?m collecting all my 308 brass now and I want to shoot 45-70 again.

    I?m starting with a cheapie Lee kit to play with until I learn more about it.

    Someone posted a gnarly primbe accident story here and that scared the daylights out of me but I?m over it now.

    Would love to watch the comments on this thread. Dillon is supposed to be the best of the best.
    "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis

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    • #3
      tabascoz28
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2016
      • 3364

      I have many cheap lee kits and they all work. Of course if you pay more you'll get better creature comforts/faster but then you'll have less money for components as primers and optimum powders are very hard to find. The bigger the caliber/round/cartridge the more you'll save even on a slow single stage. You'll spend a lot of time justifying your purchase if all you make is 9mm and 223 like I first started but it helped me develop best practices and skill to make quality reloads. Now I just buy whatever powder/components that are available, although it is still hard to find 209 primers for shotshells. I really like the newer classic lee turret press, built more heavy duty than before and clearance for 308 now. All your dies should transfer over to a better press in the future. Knowing what I know now, don't get the kit, get a press, get a quality digital scale and other stuff as you feel like you need it. A vibratory tumbler has worked for me for 20 years, refill with lizard bedding/walnut.

      But if you feel like you need the better rig, go for it. Just don't be surprised when some parts break or you still get headaches troubleshooting. The parts will also be more expensive to replace.

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      • #4
        TomReloaded
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2013
        • 1637



        In some ways the Hornady is better than the Dillon, and vise versa. It ends up significantly less expensive when you add in a few different calibers, and it's still a premium press.

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        • #5
          ar15robert
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2002
          • 2470

          Started with an rcbs rockchucker and still use it today.

          Also use a Dillion square deal b for my 45.

          IMO start with single stage learn and go from there. Remember a progressive is faster but if you make a mistake your problems progress faster too and when you notice it’s too late.

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          • #6
            Strafer
            Member
            • Jan 2011
            • 471

            I agree with this. I too started w a Rockchucker and still have it. 223, 22-250, 9mm, and 45acp all on the single stage as I learned and became proficient. I still use the Rockchucker for my rifle loads. Then I added a Square Deal B to the same bench for 9mm, 45ACP, and 380ACP.

            IIRC there is another couple threads out there on the starting to reload topic. There's a lot of experience on CG from which you can glean tips and informed opinions...

            Good luck!

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            • #7
              HKAllTheThings
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2020
              • 1313

              Do you have a lot of spare time?

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              • #8
                CSACANNONEER
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                • Dec 2006
                • 44093

                I prefer my old 550 over the 650/750. That said, even if you get a progressive, I STONGLY recommend having a single stage press on your bench too.
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                • #9
                  hambam105
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 7083

                  New RCs have not kept current on single stage design strength and operator ease of use.

                  The difference in a legacy reloading press, one that you will own for the rest of your life, compared
                  to a entry level press, is less than 100 bucks.

                  Reloading has a significant time commitment. And anyone encouraging someone else to participate
                  without telling them of expensive up front costs is doing them a disservice.

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                  • #10
                    bergmen
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 2488

                    Originally posted by ar15robert
                    Started with an rcbs rockchucker and still use it today.

                    Also use a Dillion square deal b for my 45.

                    IMO start with single stage learn and go from there. Remember a progressive is faster but if you make a mistake your problems progress faster too and when you notice it?s too late.
                    I agree. Have used my RCBS Rock Chuckers (two of them) for the past 30 years or so.

                    I considered going to a progressive a few years ago but the cost and the fact I don't shoot in the volume to justify it keeps me with the RCs. Also, the opportunity for screwing up can be somewhat higher with progressives (at least from what I have determined).

                    Not only does this give me the opportunity to build and shoot ammo at any time (I have enough components to last through my grandkids lives), I can tailor the loads to exactly what I am attempting to accomplish rather than rely on production ammo that has far fewer choices.

                    It IS time consuming and requires attention to detail but that is normal for me.

                    Dan

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                    • #11
                      Capybara
                      CGSSA Coordinator
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 15310

                      Originally posted by HKAllTheThings
                      Do you have a lot of spare time?
                      This ^^^^

                      While I think every shooter should reload, it is time consuming to do it well. Also, in 2023, as you noted, the savings will vary widely with the type of ammo you want to reload. The more exotic, powerful, larger or more obscure the cartridge, the more reloading becomes essential and not just for cost.

                      If you're only going to reload 9mm and .223, not sure if I would bother. A lot of reloaders say you don't get into reloading to save money, you get into it to make better, more accurate ammo and to shoot more. Which is true but many of us got into to do all of that AND save money and with component prices these days, you only save significant money with more unusual cartridges. If your schedule is super busy all of the time, not sure if I would recommend getting into reloading. Mine is relatively busy as I am a business owner and freelancer and I sometimes go many months without finding the time to reload.
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                      • #12
                        bergmen
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2011
                        • 2488

                        Originally posted by Capybara
                        This ^^^^

                        While I think every shooter should reload, it is time consuming to do it well. Also, in 2023, as you noted, the savings will vary widely with the type of ammo you want to reload. The more exotic, powerful, larger or more obscure the cartridge, the more reloading becomes essential and not just for cost.

                        If you're only going to reload 9mm and .223, not sure if I would bother. A lot of reloaders say you don't get into reloading to save money, you get into it to make better, more accurate ammo and to shoot more. Which is true but many of us got into to do all of that AND save money and with component prices these days, you only save significant money with more unusual cartridges. If your schedule is super busy all of the time, not sure if I would recommend getting into reloading. Mine is relatively busy as I am a business owner and freelancer and I sometimes go many months without finding the time to reload.
                        Very well said!

                        In my case I bought all of my components (powder, primers, bullets) many years ago when they were relatively inexpensive and readily available. I keep them in a temp stabilized storage room so they will last pretty much forever. I was buying (at the time) at about 10x the rate I was shooting so I'm very well stocked.

                        So (at least for me) cost is not part of the equation, just the time required. Also, I have thousands and thousands of brass cases for each of my calibers (saved them all since I started center fire shooting in the mid 60s).

                        Dan

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                        • #13
                          L4D
                          Veteran Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 3053

                          What they said above. I got into reloading to "save money". That didnt entirely become a reality.. I am loading rounds for .223 and 300BO at less than retail (300BO significantly less) but at the cost of every tool needed/wanted. Im in the red and I expect to be there for a while. But being stocked and able to just "go make some" is another good reason in a SHTF scenario.
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                          • #14
                            Tommy Gun
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 806

                            Reloading when I started was about saving money as I started with .308. Figured I'd just reload everything so started 9mm and 45 which at best you break even. Save money reloading 357. Save money on 7.62x39 and 6.5 and break evenish in 223/556.

                            It turned into not having to deal with the new ammo regs thankfully.

                            The con of reloading is time spent on prep and wreckless abandon when I'm at the range. I shoot so much more ammo now when I go, figure 700 to 1k total across all my calibers.

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                            • #15
                              USMCmatt
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2015
                              • 803

                              Appreciate all of the input from everyone. I know I wont be shooting thousands of rounds of ammo. So perhaps, especially starting out, there is benefit to a single stage. This could still be used if I decide to upgrade to a progressive system to handle 7mm rem mag for hunting loads.

                              I see myself likely reloading 5.56, 300 BO, and 9mm. I have other caliber needs in the handgun, rifle, and shotgun camp. But these would be the ones I likely would want to reload most. I also will want to reload sub rounds, and those get pricey.

                              Perhaps these are good options to consider starting out:

                              Hornady Lock-N-Load Classic Reloading Kit
                              or
                              RCBS Rebel Master Reloading Kit

                              Then the remaining amount of my giftcards could be used for the expensive powder, dies, components needed (primers, cases, etc), and perhaps other tools.

                              I'm more so doing a feel for this, and will do more research before deciding if this is what I want to do. I just thought it would be a good idea to get into it now before the next run.
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