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  • browndude
    Member
    • Aug 2018
    • 261

    Glock17 Barrel for hard cast reloads

    Instead of shooting non fmj reloads thru the OEM barrel Is a 75$ ish aftermarket barrel a good choice for my G17 9mm? I don't have a chrony, yet.
    And whats the good recipes for hard cast?
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    TomReloaded
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2013
    • 1637

    I would and have just shot lead in the stock barrel. You can't go thousands of rounds without cleaning, but I don't do that anyway.

    Otherwise, the aftermarket Glock barrels tend to be fine. Even the cheap ones. Some exceptionally cheap ones aren't always finish reamed and have tight chambers and short leads... But not all of them.

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    • #3
      browndude
      Member
      • Aug 2018
      • 261

      Originally posted by TomReloaded
      I would and have just shot lead in the stock barrel. You can't go thousands of rounds without cleaning, but I don't do that anyway.

      Otherwise, the aftermarket Glock barrels tend to be fine. Even the cheap ones. Some exceptionally cheap ones aren't always finish reamed and have tight chambers and short leads... But not all of them.
      The fortunecooki345LC video got me thinking about range pickups and how to charge hard cast vs fmj. I think I'm looking for a chamber that supports the case as much as possible. Vs stock glock barrel esp. With hard cast slugs.

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      • #4
        TomReloaded
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2013
        • 1637

        Your stock Glock barrel is rated for +p at 38,500 psi, but it'll hold +p+ at 42,000 psi no problem. The case support thing was resolved in gen 2.

        Nothing unusual about hard cast loading. Lots of coated bullets are hard cast, they load up using regular lead data, or plated data. I have thousands of hard cast coated through my stock g17' barrel. Any regular 9mm powder gives predictable results.

        Powder choice will depend more on how fast you're trying to go. Cfe pistol is great for going fast, but there's lots of god powders in that burn speed.

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        • #5
          jsanch03
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2018
          • 713

          KKM is my go to barrel of choice highly polished chamber and locks up great

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          • #6
            JagerDog
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            • #7
              browndude
              Member
              • Aug 2018
              • 261

              Originally posted by TomReloaded
              Your stock Glock barrel is rated for +p at 38,500 psi, but it'll hold +p+ at 42,000 psi no problem. The case support thing was resolved in gen 2.

              Nothing unusual about hard cast loading. Lots of coated bullets are hard cast, they load up using regular lead data, or plated data. I have thousands of hard cast coated through my stock g17' barrel. Any regular 9mm powder gives predictable results.

              Powder choice will depend more on how fast you're trying to go. Cfe pistol is great for going fast, but there's lots of god powders in that burn speed.
              I have win244 and unique.
              Hogdon magazine says
              125gr LCN(lead conical nose?) For WIN244 is 3.6 to 4.1gr
              Or 115gr LRN(LEAD ROUND NOSE?) is WIN244 is 4.0 to 4.5gr

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              • #8
                TomReloaded
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2013
                • 1637

                With 244, I loaded a bunch at 4.0, and it's a decent load. 3.8gr with a 124gr lead bullet is about where I want them.

                I did 115's at 4.4gr. I don't prefer 115's in general. It was hotter than cheap bulk ammo but well within safe. I just don't like 115's.

                244 is incredibly consistent and meters great. It's still fairly new, but it's going to catch on I think.

                Plenty of people like unique, but not me. It meters poorly, it makes a sooty mess that doesn't clean up by going hotter, and gets even worse going too light. 244 is better in every way.
                Last edited by TomReloaded; 04-01-2023, 6:26 PM.

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                • #9
                  eaglemike
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 3874

                  I've used mostly coated lead, and they've worked very well in factory Glock and aftermarket barrels.
                  I've used 125, 135, and 147 in 9mm. I think my favorite is the 135, but they all work well.
                  For .40, I've used 180 and 200 in Glocks, again aftermarket and factory. They both work well. The 200's were used to make major in IPSC, and require a more careful powder selection that the common 180. The right load with a 200 is accurate and easy shooting.
                  For .45, the 200 and 230 were used a lot, all factory barrels IIRC. Super easy to load these. Any reasonable load will work well.
                  Glocks are usually pretty forgiving and feed pretty much any decent load. Pay attention, load to the manual and it will work, unless the pistol has been messed with too much. Most failures with Glocks are related to aftermarket parts. Exceptions would be some older generation extractors and some 10 round magazines. Some very high round count 17L slides cracked. YMMV of course.
                  There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

                  It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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                  • #10
                    browndude
                    Member
                    • Aug 2018
                    • 261

                    Originally posted by TomReloaded
                    With 244, I loaded a bunch at 4.0, and it's a decent load. 3.8gr with a 124gr lead bullet is about where I want them.

                    I did 115's at 4.4gr. I don't prefer 115's in general. It was hotter than cheap bulk ammo but well within safe. I just don't like 115's.

                    244 is incredibly consistent and meters great. It's still fairly new, but it's going to catch on I think.

                    Plenty of people like unique, but not me. It meters poorly, it makes a sooty mess that doesn't clean up by going hotter, and gets even worse going too light. 244 is better in every way.
                    I ordered some 9mm ,124gr hard cast from am precision (redline ballistics). Whats ur OAL for that?

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                    • #11
                      bohoki
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                      • Jan 2006
                      • 20771

                      i bought a lone wolf but there are so many cheaper options on ebay



                      i like keeping my oem barrel clean

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                      • #12
                        Mojave8899
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                        • Oct 2022
                        • 96

                        I would never shoot re-loads out of a Glock, bad idea.



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                        • #13
                          TomReloaded
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2013
                          • 1637

                          Originally posted by Mojave8899
                          I would never shoot re-loads out of a Glock, bad idea.
                          It's not, at all. I don't think I've ever shot a factory load out of my Glock. Tens of thousands of reloads only.

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                          • #14
                            BIGOX
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 945

                            Same hear I've probably shot 40 rounds of factory ammo through one of my Glocks everything else has been reloads . I've never had a problem with reloads in a Glock. No reason why it would cause problems unless you purchased from someone else or you weren't paying attention.
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                            • #15
                              JagerDog
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                              • May 2011
                              • 13502

                              Originally posted by Mojave8899
                              I would never shoot re-loads out of a Glock, bad idea.



                              I don't own a Glock. But I shoot very little commercial ammo out of any of my guns.

                              There's no reason reloads can't be just as safe/reliable as commercial ammo.
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