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  • Citadelgrad87
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    • Mar 2007
    • 16777

    I need to load .32 ACP for my Seecamp, anyone do this?

    I have a Seecamp on my CCW, and I am WAY low on ammo for practice and qual. Seecamp recommends ammo,

    We recommend the following .32 ammunition in no particular order:
    Winchester Silvertip 60gr. HP (**NOT WINCHESTER SUPER X**)
    PMC Bronze 60gr. JHP
    Federal Premium Hydra Shok

    It's an OAL issue, non recommended ammo is too long for the magazine. It will fire and eject and pick up the next round, but that round needs to be one of the approved rounds to fit into the mag.

    Anyway, I would like to reload some ammo for this little finger wrecker, and I plan to use the approved ammo OAL to replicate something that will feed reliably.

    Dies? It seems Dillon doesn't make .32 ACP dies, anyone using something else successfully?

    Anyone have brass in stock anywhere? Projs?

    I have current reloading manuals. Anyone have recipes they like for this application?

    Thanks.
    Last edited by Citadelgrad87; 02-01-2023, 4:17 PM.
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    bubbala
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    • Mar 2012
    • 891

    I used Redding dies on my dillon 550.starline brass,and Berry' s 71 gr. round nose #99586 bullets.pistol is the Beretta.
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    • #3
      divingin
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2015
      • 2522

      Pardini is chambering their match centerfire pistol in 32ACP now. Might check on one of the target forums (Targettalk is one); I seem to recall several discussions about reloading that cartridge.

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      • #4
        NeilMo
        Member
        • Nov 2018
        • 356

        Starline is taking backorders on 32 brass so it shouldn't be too long before it's available. other than cast lead, about the only bullets available are Berry's 71gn plated.

        How short of an OAL does the Seecamp mag require? I load that bullet @.965" for my NAA Guardian and have many good loads worked up but they'd need to be downloaded quite a bit if seated more than .010" to .020" deeper. Reason being that I mostly use fast burning powders that would spike pressure quickly, and few have any published test data available. That's the fun of 32 auto reloading.

        As far as dies go, I've been using a Lee set with a FCD for years and haven't had any issues after polishing the rough places that Lee is typical for neglecting. Would have preferred RCBS, but I actually bought the Lees used from a swap meet for $5 before I ever purchased my first 32 cal pistol.

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        • #5
          Citadelgrad87
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Mar 2007
          • 16777

          Originally posted by NeilMo
          Starline is taking backorders on 32 brass so it shouldn't be too long before it's available. other than cast lead, about the only bullets available are Berry's 71gn plated.

          How short of an OAL does the Seecamp mag require? I load that bullet @.965" for my NAA Guardian and have many good loads worked up but they'd need to be downloaded quite a bit if seated more than .010" to .020" deeper. Reason being that I mostly use fast burning powders that would spike pressure quickly, and few have any published test data available. That's the fun of 32 auto reloading.

          As far as dies go, I've been using a Lee set with a FCD for years and haven't had any issues after polishing the rough places that Lee is typical for neglecting. Would have preferred RCBS, but I actually bought the Lees used from a swap meet for $5 before I ever purchased my first 32 cal pistol.
          I swung by OC Reload today, picked up some RCBS dies. No joy on brass.

          I will mic a round tonight and post the OAL.
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          • #6
            Elgatodeacero
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2015
            • 1281

            The bullet I use that works in the Seecamp is the Hornady .311 60 grain XTP, and Hornady stopped selling it as a component several years ago.

            I use Lee carbide dies and a Lee factory crimp die on a Lee turret press with the Lee micro-disk (micro-disk also discontinued but a 3D printed copy is available from Titan Reloading) with very small charges of W231, Power Pistol and Unique (and I keep velocity the same as factory ammo so I don’t damage my Seecamp - around 800-850 fps for a 60 grain JHP from the Seecamp).

            I also have a .32 ACP Lee Classic Loader which was very hard to find but works great.

            .32 ACP brass is very thin and case heads are not always perfectly flat, so if you do not gently align the case with the powder through expanding die, you will crush/tear the case mouth.

            Speer and Hornady both make a suitable JHP .32 ACP bullet that used to be available as components, but they only sell loaded ammo now. Winchester also makes a 60 grain JHP and a 71 grain flat point FMJ but they have never sold those projectiles to the public. Barnes makes a 60 grain copper HP, but they only sell it to Buffalo Bore. Lehigh Defense makes a .311 50 grain “Extreme Cavitator” and offers load data, but they specific OAL of .945. I do not think the Lehigh Defense bullet will work in a Seecamp, but I have not tried it.

            Seecamp ammo needs to be loaded to .910 OAL, which requires a 60-65 grain JHP or a 71 grain flat point FMJ (like Winchester white box).

            I enjoy loading .32 ACP, but proper bullets to load for the Seecamp are not available for sale anymore.
            Last edited by Elgatodeacero; 02-05-2023, 5:26 AM.

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            • #7
              Elgatodeacero
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2015
              • 1281

              Duplicate.
              Last edited by Elgatodeacero; 02-05-2023, 5:21 AM.

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              • #8
                NeilMo
                Member
                • Nov 2018
                • 356

                Originally posted by Elgatodeacero

                Seecamp ammo needs to be loaded to .910 OAL, which requires a 60-65 grain JHP or a 71 grain flat point FMJ (like Winchester white box).

                I enjoy loading .32 ACP, but proper bullets to load for the Seecamp are not available for sale anymore.


                That's a good reason to cast. Here's a flat nose bullet I cast from a modified Lee rifle mold. Got the idea from another forum. It drops at .310" and weighs 73 grains. I load it to .900" and it functions in all my 32's. Accurate makes several good molds from 60gn to 77gn that would work well also.


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                • #9
                  Elgatodeacero
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2015
                  • 1281

                  Which mold did you use and how did you modify it?

                  Here is another option, maybe they offer load data?



                  My Seecamp is from the 90's and the rifling is very shallow so I have never tried cast bullets. I might have to when I run out of JHPs.

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                  • #10
                    bohoki
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 20778

                    Originally posted by Elgatodeacero
                    Which mold did you use and how did you modify it?

                    Here is another option, maybe they offer load data?



                    My Seecamp is from the 90's and the rifling is very shallow so I have never tried cast bullets. I might have to when I run out of JHPs.

                    my guess is you take mold 9030 unscrew the sprue plate mill off 1/8 inch off the top

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                    • #11
                      NeilMo
                      Member
                      • Nov 2018
                      • 356

                      Close. I milled the Lee 90362.


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                      • #12
                        SandHill
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 2206

                        OP, I have not tried loading .32 acp and don't know where you can get components. The PMC HP's are widely available online, if you can find brass you can order some and save the casings. Hopefully you have an FFL03, it will get even more pricey otherwise.

                        Lots of good information on the Seecamp forum (down for maintenance at the moment). Reports on there that the Lehigh Defense Extreme Cavitator did not feed reliably for some people. Consenus is that the Extreme Defenders do work. I have a few boxes of those from Underwood anad shot one full box through my Seecamp without problems. Stuff is a little expensive to practice with.

                        I believe the OAL limit for Seecamp is 0.920, not .0910.
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                        • #13
                          BIGOX
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 945

                          Originally posted by NeilMo
                          That's a good reason to cast. Here's a flat nose bullet I cast from a modified Lee rifle mold. Got the idea from another forum. It drops at .310" and weighs 73 grains. I load it to .900" and it functions in all my 32's. Accurate makes several good molds from 60gn to 77gn that would work well also.


                          This is definitely something to consider if you plan to reload for this gun. If not interested in casting maybe OP can find some proper boolits from someone.
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                          • #14
                            BIGOX
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                            • Mar 2013
                            • 945

                            Caution I myself have not done business with either of these companies personally so do your own research but
                            MOJO precision looks like a good deal


                            And everglades ammo have used 32 acp brass in stock could also try gunbroker for brass.
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                            • #15
                              Che762x39
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 4538

                              Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                              I have a Seecamp on my CCW, and I am WAY low on ammo for practice and qual. Seecamp recommends ammo,

                              We recommend the following .32 ammunition in no particular order:
                              Winchester Silvertip 60gr. HP
                              I got the Seecamp 32 ACP too. For carry I use Silvertips. For practice I use WWB. The ones I got is Flat Point and they fit in the magazine. I only shoot 20 or 30 rounds annually so I am not going to reload for it.

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