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  • captn-tin
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 817

    primer differences

    Recently ran out of CCI41 primers that I had been using for my 5.56 reloading using 25gr of h335 und a 55gr fmj bullet. Would I see much difference using CCI 400 srp or Fed 205m match srp. I know I'll have to load up a few and check em out, but thought maybe one of you guys out there might have tried em. Thanks in advance.
  • #2
    sghart
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 1224

    You won't see a noticeable difference.

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    • #3
      divingin
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2015
      • 2522

      Cup thickness is, AFIFK, the primary difference between 41's and 400's. 41's have a thicker (and possibly harder) cup to minimize slamfires.

      Fed's are known for soft cups. Federal does sell an AR Match primer; I suspect it runs along the same lines as the 41/400 thing.

      Try a few loads and check for cratering and/or flattening. If using a semi-auto with a floating firing pin, chamber a few and eject and check for firing pin strike marks - make sure they're not going to ignite the round prematurely.

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      • #4
        Sandspider500
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2018
        • 1140


        CCI 41 thicker cup and more fuel


        CCI 400
        Originally posted by Palmaris
        You should not worry about me. This web site is monitored by all kind of authorities and if they found this kind of post credible enough as threat, they might want to start investigation. I have no idea what can be outcome. Just saying.

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        • #5
          kcheung2
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 4387

          ^ not sure what those pictures are supposed to illustrate since that’s a pistol.
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          • #6
            shamrock12
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2016
            • 742

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            • #7
              Sandspider500
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2018
              • 1140

              The difference in the compound. Yes, fired in a pistol, no powder, no bullet. Maybe they should have used a rifle with a 24" barrel for the test. I guess it's not obvious with the pictures
              Originally posted by Palmaris
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              • #8
                NeilMo
                Member
                • Nov 2018
                • 356



                Sitting here with my friend Stevie Wonder, he sees what the pic illustrates

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                • #9
                  cz74
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2020
                  • 912

                  Originally posted by shamrock12
                  I would strongly advise against using CCI 400 with ball powders. It could cause dangerous hang fires which tend to be more common in cold conditions. Not to mention the CCI 400 has thinner cup thickness.

                  The CCI 450 has thicker cup thickness, and has the same thickness as the CCI 41.
                  Yep. I got hang fires with 6.5 Creedmoor using CCI 400 and Win 760, switched to CCI 450 no more hang fires. Watch Johnny Reloading Bench videos for more details.

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                  • #10
                    bergmen
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2011
                    • 2488

                    Originally posted by Sandspider500

                    CCI 41 thicker cup and more fuel


                    CCI 400
                    Excellent comparison, thanks for the photos! Surprised at the demonstrated difference.

                    How did you trigger the camera?

                    Dan

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                    • #11
                      Sandspider500
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2018
                      • 1140

                      Originally posted by bergmen
                      Excellent comparison, thanks for the photos! Surprised at the demonstrated difference.

                      How did you trigger the camera?

                      Dan
                      The tests weren't done by me, I found them while searching how to synthesize Lead Hypophosphite.
                      Originally posted by Palmaris
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                      • #12
                        bcrich
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2008
                        • 1159

                        I run 25g of H335 with CCI 400 primers & have never had a hang fire or click/bang or pierced primer but I do use CCI 41’s for my 5.7 because I have pierced 400’s in that particular load, however I don’t shoot in colder weather where the likely hood is far greater.

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