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  • Shotgun_Slav
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2022
    • 39

    Is it safe to shoot bullets that have been pushed into the casing?

    I have a Glock that doesn't function well with hollow point rounds.

    Basically, the nose of the bullet sometimes hits the feeding ramp and doesn't go into the barrel.

    This may even partially push the bullet backwards into the brass casing sometimes.

    However, I've found that the rounds can still be fed into the gun later. While the overall length of the rounds is slightly shorter, they are not deformed to the extent that they can't be loaded into the gun, assuming the pistol doesn't malfunction again.

    Is it still safe to shoot these kinds of damaged rounds?

    Is there a limit to how far the bullet can be pushed back into the brass casing before it becomes dangerous to shoot it?

    And if so, what's the worst that can happen?






    P.S. I've already posted about the feeding problem I'm experiencing with my gun in detail on a different thread, so I won't go on any further about that topic here. (You can read my other thread here if you want to: https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...6#post27374636 )
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    Calisnaps
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2018
    • 82

    It's going to increase the internal pressure within the round, how much is too much is hard to say.... anything from a few more FPS to having a T-shirt with "Stick a Thumb in it" are possible. While a handgun round isn't a .50 bmg so the chances are it won't become a grenade, it could still potentially damage the gun.
    "Okay, just one more gun......."

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    • #3
      flyer898
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 2015

      Moving the bullet back even .030" on a SD 9mm can drastically spike the pressure. This is one reason factory SD rounds often have a cannelure in the case behind the bullet.
      Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. So said somebody but not Mark Twain
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      • #4
        Shotgun_Slav
        Junior Member
        • Oct 2022
        • 39

        Originally posted by Calisnaps
        It's going to increase the internal pressure within the round, how much is too much is hard to say.... anything from a few more FPS to having a T-shirt with "Stick a Thumb in it" are possible. While a handgun round isn't a .50 bmg so the chances are it won't become a grenade, it could still potentially damage the gun.
        Got it. Seems like a risky thing to do then. I definitely don't want to damage my gun, so I'm guessing I probably shouldn't try it.

        Originally posted by flyer898
        Moving the bullet back even .030" on a SD 9mm can drastically spike the pressure. This is one reason factory SD rounds often have a cannelure in the case behind the bullet.
        Sorry for the stupid question, but what is an SD round? Does that mean standard?

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        • #5
          Kurgan
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 3740

          Self Defense.

          I wouldn't shoot them. Why risk a high pressure kaboom.
          My mother always told me to be careful what you ask for.

          Just one more piece of parental advice I stupidly ignored.

          <shrug>

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          • #6
            Shotgun_Slav
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2022
            • 39

            Originally posted by Kurgan
            Self Defense.

            I wouldn't shoot them. Why risk a high pressure kaboom.
            Gotcha, thanks.

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            • #7
              ojisan
              Agent 86
              CGN Contributor
              • Apr 2008
              • 11758

              .40 S&W is not tolerant of this at all, especially for the heavier bullet weights.
              If you don't reload and can't partly pull and reseat / recrimp the bullets, then you should dispose of those too-short rounds.

              Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
              I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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              • #8
                Shotgun_Slav
                Junior Member
                • Oct 2022
                • 39

                Originally posted by ojisan
                .40 S&W is not tolerant of this at all, especially for the heavier bullet weights.
                If you don't reload and can't partly pull and reseat / recrimp the bullets, then you should dispose of those too-short rounds.
                I don't know anything about reloading. It's something I'd like to be able to do someday, but just never got around to learning.

                How does one reseat/recrimp a bullet? Is there a machine that I can use to do that? I'm curious to know how that works exactly.

                Also, I'm using 9mm in the aforementioned Glock. I don't have any guns chambered in .40 S&W, but I'll keep what you've said in mind if I ever get any.

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                • #9
                  bruce381
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 2450

                  google bullet puller both collet and smacker but yeah fro the small cost throw away

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                  • #10
                    eaglemike
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 3904

                    9th edition Speer manual had a note that seating some 9mm loads 1/16" deeper doubled the pressure. AS noted above .40 is really bad too. Case volume and bullet weight for .40 can really create high pressure spikes. Saw a guy kaboom his Glock 22 using Clays, which is fairly fast, and 180 grain coated lead.
                    There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

                    It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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                    • #11
                      Shotgun_Slav
                      Junior Member
                      • Oct 2022
                      • 39

                      Originally posted by bruce381
                      google bullet puller both collet and smacker but yeah fro the small cost throw away
                      Cool, thanks. I'll look that up.

                      Originally posted by eaglemike
                      9th edition Speer manual had a note that seating some 9mm loads 1/16" deeper doubled the pressure. AS noted above .40 is really bad too. Case volume and bullet weight for .40 can really create high pressure spikes. Saw a guy kaboom his Glock 22 using Clays, which is fairly fast, and 180 grain coated lead.
                      Yikes! I won't be messing around with that sort of thing then. Good to know.

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