I HATE bore scopes

[capitol]

I finally purchased a bore scope. Its one of the Teslong bore scopes and they are cheap compared to the old school Hawkeyes.

Here is the problem. CARBON! I friggen hate carbon now. Carbon is the killer of all things.

Copper is a non issue. It comes right out.

If you think your barrel is clean and dont have a bore scope I promise your barrel is filthy with carbon fouling. Its down in the grooves and its laughing at you.

[TomReloaded]

Carbon fouling helps accuracy, it's good to keep in there. Just ugly to see.

[ar15barrels]

I finally purchased a bore scope. Its one of the Teslong bore scopes and they are cheap compared to the old school Hawkeyes.

Here is the problem. CARBON! I friggen hate carbon now. Carbon is the killer of all things.

Copper is a non issue. It comes right out.

If you think your barrel is clean and dont have a bore scope I promise your barrel is filthy with carbon fouling. Its down in the grooves and its laughing at you.

It truly was better when you didn't know.
Now you can't un-see it though...

[kcheung2]

Carbon fouling helps accuracy, it's good to keep in there. Just ugly to see.

I had a Mauser barrel that was absolutely pitted. Cleaned it, and it could barely get onto a 12" target at 25 yards. But then a funny thing happened. That carbon fouling really did help. Not match grade at all, but definitely an improvement. So now I only clean the chamber and leave the barrel pitting filled with carbon. I shoot my reloads so no worry about corrosive ammo.

[pacrat]

It truly was better when you didn't know.
Now you can't un-see it though...

Ya mean like seeing grandma coming out of the shower nekked?

[kcstott]

Carbon fouling helps accuracy, it's good to keep in there. Just ugly to see.

Only in limited circumstances and only for a very short number of shots.

Barrels should be stripped of all fouling after ever match or range session.
The barrel is only as accurate as it will ever be when it is perfectly clean. Every shot thereafter is only diminishing accuracy.

CLR is a great carbon remover. Only use it on stainless barrels. It will strip the bluing off carbon steel.

[RandyD]

I second the use of CLR. I thought the barrel on my grandfather's Winchester 1994 had reached the end of its useful life. My cousin and I bore scoped it, and it was caked with carbon. Nothing removed that carbon and then we tried CLR, it took several days of using CLR, now I have a barrel that looks almost like new. Yes, CLR will remove bluing, but we were careful and did not lose any bluing.

[eric n]

A few strokes with a vfg pellet and tiny dab of iosso and kroil takes it out quick.
With a proper fitting bore guide, its not going to hurt anything.
Other then that, have fun scrubbing if it bothers you.
You don’t need to get it bright and shiny, just maintain it.
The carbon ring in the throat sucks to get out…

Look at the bright side. Now you’re going to know what works for cleaning and you will have more cabinet space because you threw all the crap out that doesn’t work.

[kcstott]

Tell that to an F Class shooter.

[eric n]

Tell that to an F Class shooter.

Tell it to some record holding LR BR shooters?

[kcstott]

Tell it to some record holding LR BR shooters?

Some? Some that may have gotten away with it you mean.
So you’re going to tell me Speedy does this?? You gonna tell me Jack Neary does this? BS! How about Lou? Lou cleans with a power drill.
Sorry I’m not believing you at all.

You have to love people that read an article from 20 years ago and think it applies today.
I bet you think BR shooters still neck size of only?

[eric n]

I suggested using iosso which is an abrasive to clean the carbon.
You win

[kcstott]

I suggested using iosso which is an abrasive to clean the carbon.
You win

And you assume I don’t have this in my Arsenal?? You don’t clean carbon, you remove it.

[sammy]

Eric Cortina has some options on this. Might change your mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cb8ykYU3Xc

[capitol]

Since I started using my bore scope I found carbon is very stubborn to remove.

I have tried the following to remove it.

Slip 2000-Carbon friggen laughed at this


This stuff is great on the internet. Not so much in real life.


When I was happy and still ignorant I thought this was all I needed, WRONG!


Left this popular combo in my barrel overnight several times. FAIL!


I tried this after some guy on youtube told me it works to remove Carbon. LIES!


So, what did work? What finally removed that hard core carbon? This...


JB and Kroil soaked patches. I used patches (never a brass brush) wrapped around Parker and Hale cleaning jags with a coated bore rod. Several runs of Iosso nylon brushes helped as well.

Still not easy to remove, but it does work.