Mixed powders. Rats.

[Supersapper]

Hi all,

So...8 years reloading and I did something that I've not done before.

I was reloading 9mm using TiteGroup. Long tawdry story short, I mixed Win 748 with the TG powder, about equal amounts. I got 150 rounds complete before I realized the mistake.

Now I have about 150 rounds of 9mm that have a mixed powder of TG and Win 748. I already condemned about 1/2 pound of powder to the burn pit because I shoot 5.56 also and I do not want to risk that. Before I condemn 150 rounds of 9mm, can these even be shot or am I about pull 150 bullets?

I know if these were .223 or 5.56, the TG would mean these can NOT be shot, but since 748 is slower burning, can they be shot at all or should I just begin pulling bullets?

Thanks. Damn I feel stupid.

[Steve45-70]

It sucks but I would pull them. Especially since the 9mm is almost certainly a auto.

[Supersapper]

Steve 45-70: That's what i was afraid of. Only a couple of dollars at todays prices, but I just didn't want to spend the time. But...safer is better.

TKM: Yeah...I'm just glad I caught it. I grabbed the powder bottle to move it out of the way and it was a WIN 748 bottle. I looked at the powders themselves in a pan and I could tell: I looked at WIN 748...perfect ball powder. Looked at TG...perfect little flaky grains. Looked at my new powder: mixed.

Rats. I wouldn't care, but at todays prices, powder is simply not cheap anymore.

[pacrat]

Steve 45-70: That's what i was afraid of. Only a couple of dollars at todays prices, but I just didn't want to spend the time. But...safer is better.

TKM: Yeah...I'm just glad I caught it. I grabbed the powder bottle to move it out of the way and it was a WIN 748 bottle. I looked at the powders themselves in a pan and I could tell: I looked at WIN 748...perfect ball powder. Looked at TG...perfect little flaky grains. Looked at my new powder: mixed.

Rats. I wouldn't care, but at todays prices, powder is simply not cheap anymore.

But still cheaper than fingers, eyes, or guns.

My methodology to keep such from happening. Is to keep powders in a cabinet separate from loading bench. And only have (1) powder on the bench top, at a time. If I leave powder in my measure, like overnight, I have a roll of masking tape on a shelf above the bench. And label a pc of tape and stick it on the measure.

JM2c

[Supersapper]

But still cheaper than fingers, eyes, or guns.

My methodology to keep such from happening. Is to keep powders in a cabinet separate from loading bench. And only have (1) powder on the bench top, at a time. If I leave powder in my measure, like overnight, I have a roll of masking tape on a shelf above the bench. And label a pc of tape and stick it on the measure.

JM2c

You are 100% right about that. Better than finger subtraction.

ordinarily I do that and it's kept me safe thus far. I also keep rifle and pistol in two separate cabinets under lock and key just to prevent this sort of BS. This one was not where it should have been. Now I have to go back through and reverify everything.

[Sandspider500]

Hmm unmeasurable duplex loads, that could be interesting.

[Steve45-70]

Steve 45-70: That's what i was afraid of. Only a couple of dollars at todays prices, but I just didn't want to spend the time. But...safer is better.

TKM: Yeah...I'm just glad I caught it. I grabbed the powder bottle to move it out of the way and it was a WIN 748 bottle. I looked at the powders themselves in a pan and I could tell: I looked at WIN 748...perfect ball powder. Looked at TG...perfect little flaky grains. Looked at my new powder: mixed.

Rats. I wouldn't care, but at todays prices, powder is simply not cheap anymore.

Yeah I know it sucks. I just bought some HP-38 the other day and am almost out of titegroup.

I pulled a really stupid one the other day. I was loading 9mm on my single stage press with titegroup. Titegroup always scares me because it is possible to double charge. I dropped 50 cases and they looked good. I started seating the bullets and came up with 51 when I got done. Really stupid on my part but I had a bunch of primed cases near my cases that had powder in them. Somehow I accidently grabbed one.

At first I started to pull them and then I said screw it and put a big red tag on the box and went out to shoot them. Sure enough about half way through I had one go snap. It was not enough to cycle the gun but was enough to separate the bullet from the case and lodge it into the rifling's. Also it did not go deep enough to get another case in the chamber. That kind of what I was testing. Still lesson learned and keep everything separate. Have never done that before.

[newbie1234]

Pull it.
I like the Hornady Cam-Lock Puller die (with the red handle) more than RCBS Standard Bullet Puller (with the rod). Both of them require 9mm collet that you have to buy separated.

[anyracoon]

Makes good lawn fertilizer.

[Spyder]

Steve 45-70: That's what i was afraid of. Only a couple of dollars at todays prices, but I just didn't want to spend the time. But...safer is better.

I've got a big pretzel jar full of "not safe to shoot, but save to tear down and use components when the apocalypse comes and you're desperate" screw ups like this. I wouldn't spend the time to tear down 9mm, but I wouldn't throw it away either. The hour or more it would take to disassemble them is worth more to me than the 20 bucks worth of components.

[Supersapper]

Makes good lawn fertilizer.

Always been curious about that. I think I will actually try it.

[Supersapper]

I've got a big pretzel jar full of "not safe to shoot, but save to tear down and use components when the apocalypse comes and you're desperate" screw ups like this. I wouldn't spend the time to tear down 9mm, but I wouldn't throw it away either. The hour or more it would take to disassemble them is worth more to me than the 20 bucks worth of components.

Yep...I got a bin of those too. Mostly what i find when I pick up brass. Stick 'em in a big bin and as I have time, I'll pull a few here and there if the primer's in good shape and there's no case damage.

[Supersapper]

Yeah I know it sucks. I just bought some HP-38 the other day and am almost out of titegroup.

I pulled a really stupid one the other day. I was loading 9mm on my single stage press with titegroup. Titegroup always scares me because it is possible to double charge. I dropped 50 cases and they looked good. I started seating the bullets and came up with 51 when I got done. Really stupid on my part but I had a bunch of primed cases near my cases that had powder in them. Somehow I accidently grabbed one.

At first I started to pull them and then I said screw it and put a big red tag on the box and went out to shoot them. Sure enough about half way through I had one go snap. It was not enough to cycle the gun but was enough to separate the bullet from the case and lodge it into the rifling's. Also it did not go deep enough to get another case in the chamber. That kind of what I was testing. Still lesson learned and keep everything separate. Have never done that before.

Same here. A few years ago I reloaded one and noticed that the powder throw drum didn't cycle down. I caught that one, but when it did it again, I realized that there might be one that got past me. Fortunately, there were only about 40 in the little bin I use to catch them when I use the press. I did the same thing. I marked the box and only used them when I was practicing single shot distance (I routinely shoot to 50+ meters with 9mm...keeps the skill sharp). Since I knew I was looking for it, anything that did not produce significant recoil got a barrel check. Didn't take long.

[TomReloaded]

I'd totally shoot them. I don't see how adding the same charge of slower powder would do anything except be undercharged and low velocity.

Its the fast powder with your slow powder charge that's dangerous.

[DaveInOroValley]

Not the same but reminded me of the meme of the wife telling her husband that he will love how she got his reloading bench organized. She told him she was able to get rid of those small cans and they all fit into one big one.