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  • apes
    Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 159

    Reloading 9mm handgun vs Carbine

    Is there any difference in the formula for reloading for a 9mm AR or any other carbine and a semi auto handgun....are heavier bullets preferred in the carbine or etc??? thanks
  • #2
    robledor
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2015
    • 789

    Nope, just twist rate on the barrel.. and some rates prefer heavier or lighter bullets

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    • #3
      ysr_racer
      Banned
      • Mar 2006
      • 12014

      I have just one load that I use for both.

      Name: 9mm: 124gr Zero RN: Win 231 4.2gr: Mix Case: OAL 1.14
      Notes: Para 1911 5"
      Shots: 5
      Average: 1080 ft/s
      SD: 20 ft/s
      Min: 1043 ft/s
      Max: 1097 ft/s
      Spread: 54 ft/s
      Power Factor Average: 133
      Power Factor Low: 129
      Power Factor High: 136
      Barometric Pressure: 30 in Hg
      Temperature: 63 F
      Weight: 124.0 gr.
      Powder/Wt: Win 231 / 4.2
      Bullet/Wt: Zero / 124
      Primer: CCI SPP
      OAL: 1.14
      Gun: Para 5"

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      • #4
        JagerDog
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        • May 2011
        • 14460

        Not really.

        If you want to maximize the velocity re: the longer barrel, tend slow on the powder burn rate. Like something in the HS6 neighborhood.
        Last edited by JagerDog; 03-29-2022, 9:45 AM.
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        • #5
          golfish
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          • Mar 2013
          • 10111

          My 9mm handgun loads are 124gr Missouri RN Hi-Tek coated bullets with 4.2gr W231. They work good in my 9mm handguns and my Ruger PCC ....CCI SPP and all sorts mixed brass.
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          • #6
            sigstroker
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            • Jan 2009
            • 19612

            It's pretty hard to stay subsonic in a carbine. I think factory Federal 147's are sub-1000 fps in a pistol, but I could hear the crack out of my carbine w/silencer.

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            • #7
              NoHeavyHitter
              Banned
              • Jul 2011
              • 2876

              Absolutely! Reloading is the way to get ammunition that is going to best suit your application.

              A longer barrel will allow you to take full advantage of a slower burning powder, whereas fast powders will be best for shorter barrels. 9mm carbines haven't been around as long as long guns chambered in .357 and .44mag. This is why you will see loads published separately in both the rifle and pistol sections of reload manuals for the .357 and .44.

              In the future, I'd expect the proliferation of 9mm "rifles" to bring about published loads for 9mm rifles in the future load manuals.

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              • #8
                rsrocket1
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2010
                • 2768

                The whole idea of using a Pistol Caliber Carbine is usually the same as a lever gun in a handgun cartridge. You can use the same ammo in either gun. Whatever you like in the handgun should be used in the carbine. You gain the lower recoil and turn a 15 yard gun into a 50-100 yard minute of bad guy gun.

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                • #9
                  bohoki
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 20815

                  3.5 grains of bullseye is able to get a bullet out of a 16 inch barrel just fine

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                  • #10
                    sigstroker
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                    • Jan 2009
                    • 19612

                    Originally posted by NoHeavyHitter
                    Absolutely! Reloading is the way to get ammunition that is going to best suit your application.

                    A longer barrel will allow you to take full advantage of a slower burning powder, whereas fast powders will be best for shorter barrels. 9mm carbines haven't been around as long as long guns chambered in .357 and .44mag. This is why you will see loads published separately in both the rifle and pistol sections of reload manuals for the .357 and .44.

                    In the future, I'd expect the proliferation of 9mm "rifles" to bring about published loads for 9mm rifles in the future load manuals.
                    There's no room in a 9mm case anyway.

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                    • #11
                      TomReloaded
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2013
                      • 1637

                      Theres enough room in the case to hit 1500 fps in a handgun... but you're kind of making unnecessary amounts of work for yourself by making two loads.

                      9mm picks up an impressive amount of energy coming out of a carbine. Just use your pistol ammo.

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                      • #12
                        NoHeavyHitter
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 2876

                        Originally posted by sigstroker
                        There's no room in a 9mm case anyway.
                        This is not about stuffing in MORE powder - it's about leveraging powders that burn at different rates. When you learn about reloading, this concept will make more sense to you.

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                        • #13
                          ysr_racer
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 12014

                          Originally posted by NoHeavyHitter
                          This is not about stuffing in MORE powder - it's about leveraging powders that burn at different rates. When you learn about reloading, this concept will make more sense to you.
                          Ouch

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                          • #14
                            JagerDog
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • May 2011
                            • 14460

                            I'm with Heavy. Though it's nice to have a "generic" round that's acceptable in all your same cartridge firearms, the essence of handloading is optimizing rounds to firearms/purposes.

                            If you're only interested in WW White box equivalence, then you're a reloader vs. handloader.
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                            • #15
                              tabascoz28
                              Veteran Member
                              • Mar 2016
                              • 3364

                              Is there a gas operated pcc? That might cause issues, but I would think the maker would optimize for that. Mine is blowback operated so the only issue is making sure the buffer is correct.

                              I'm already pissed that I have to make a different round for my 556 pistol because the chamber is tighter.

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