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  • pohorsky
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2016
    • 836

    115 gr in 380

    I'm looking at developing a load for a friend who has a sig 230. I don't have any 380 projectiles, but when searching online about 380, I saw a couple people mention using 115 gr. Anyone have experience in loading a 115 for 380? My go to powder is tight group, which is what I hope to use.
  • #2
    Strafer
    Member
    • Jan 2011
    • 471

    Loading 100grain xtreme RNFP w 3.4gr of WIN 231. About 850fps out of my P238, a little faster out of my P230 and CZ83.
    COAL 0.960"


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    • #3
      TKM
      Onward through the fog!
      CGN Contributor
      • Jul 2002
      • 10657

      Use the right bullets. 115 gr. are not the right bullets.
      It's not PTSD, it's nostalgia.

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      • #4
        TomReloaded
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2013
        • 1637

        115gr 380 is just like 147gr 9mm. Little heavy, but it's fine and there's tons of published data. Zero problems doing so.

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        • #5
          stormvet
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Mar 2010
          • 12594

          I’ve only used plated round nose 100gn, 3.3gn of W231. But 115gn is a common bullet size for 380. Sorry I can’t help with a recipe, should be many on the net though.
          Im a warmonger baby, I got blood in my eyes and I'm looking at you.

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          • #6
            hermosabeach
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Feb 2009
            • 19291



            The 115 might have more torque for the shooter too
            Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

            Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

            Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

            Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
            (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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            • #7
              hermosabeach
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Feb 2009
              • 19291

              SWC= Semi-WadCutter, FMC= Full Metal Case, FMJ= Full Metal Jacket, JHP= Jacketed Hollow Point and if GC indicated, means Gas Check at bottom of lead bullet.


              115 grain FMJ or JHP (.355″)
              AA No. 7 5.4 gr. 872 fps
              VV #318 2.45 gr. 877
              HS-6 4.5 gr. 885
              Bullseye 1.8 gr. 604
              Bullseye 2.1 gr. 696 (Max)
              Bullseye +P 2.5 gr. 823 (+P MAX)Hornady XTP JHP bullet
              HP38/W231 2.0 gr. 612
              HP38/W231 2.3 gr. 704 (Max)
              HP38/W231 2.9 gr. 902 (+P MAX)Hornady XTP-JHP bullet
              Unique 2.7 gr. 598
              Unique 3.0 gr. 703
              Unique 3.2 gr. 744
              Unique 3.5 gr. 847 (max)
              ZIP 2.4 gr. 720
              ZIP 2.9 gr. 840 (MAX)
              True Blue 3.3 gr. 725
              True Blue 3.8 gr. 830 (Max)
              Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

              Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

              Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

              Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
              (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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              • #8
                hambam105
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2013
                • 7083

                Your typical 125 round nose bullet doesn't work in a .380acp otherwise known as 9x17mm. However...

                A 121 grain Montana Gold works just fine in .380acp. Muzzle velocity ~ low 700 feet per second. The
                recoil is consistent and operationally gentle as compared with the sharp recoil of the Federal round
                nose FMJ red box .380 cartridges.

                The load came from an old-time manual, 120 gr. flat-point cast bullet. Bullseye powder. COAL and
                amount of powder I won't post because too many guys want to argue, lecture and beech at me.

                If I wanted to or was willing to put up with that nonsense I'd get married.

                Old time load for old time dudes shooting old time Walther & Berretta all steel old time pistols. Your
                results with tactical inter-webbs poly framed .380s may very. So calm down. Thank you.
                Last edited by hambam105; 02-19-2022, 10:48 PM.

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                • #9
                  pohorsky
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2016
                  • 836

                  No poly frame pistol involved here. Just steel.

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                  • #10
                    hambam105
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 7083

                    It might be difficult to specifically locate Montana Gold 121 grain bullets during these times. And any .356 regular
                    124 grain bullet in the ordinary configurations that I know of is impossible for me to get the 9X17mm COAL correct.

                    After I learn how to post vids, I plan to reload a small batch of this 380s with the 121 MT bullet on camera and then
                    see how times I can consecutive plaster Campbell Soup size tin cans at 10 yards for all those in doubt to see.

                    I suppose one could load the typical 9x17mm weight bullets. But why be normal?

                    I will show Hickock45 how it's done.
                    Last edited by hambam105; 02-20-2022, 6:14 PM.

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                    • #11
                      robert101
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 1997

                      I don't use anything heavier than 100 grn. bullets in my .380. If you want more consistent expansion then you need a higher velocity. Check the manufacturer's data for allowable speed. The .380 typically maximum bullet weight is 90 to 100 grains. Yes, you can certainly get heavier bullets to function but are they better for self defense? I doubt it.

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