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[captn-tin]

In Richard Lees book Modern Reloading, 1996 copyright, he refers to clays powder and universal clays powder in the 9mm section. When he calls for universal clays, is that what is just h-universal today? Thanks in advance for any help...captn-tin...Found answer in this forum...funny thing is it was asked by ME. Gettin old is a b(^$@*. but senior discounts are great HA

[tabascoz28]

https://forums.sassnet.com/index.php?/topic/249469-clays-vs-international-clays-vs-universal-clays/

Apparently there's 3, I use regular clays for my bird shot/clay target loads.

[pacrat]

In Richard Lees book Modern Reloading, 1996 copyright, he refers to clays powder and universal clays powder in the 9mm section. When he calls for universal clays, is that what is just h-universal today? Thanks in advance for any help...captn-tin

Hodgdon CLAYS. And Hodgdon "Universal" are different powders. Their usages overlap when loading pistols.

https://shop.hodgdon.com/hodgdon

https://shop.hodgdon.com/hodgdon/hodgdon-clays

https://shop.hodgdon.com/hodgdon/hodgdon-universal

Their labeling is a bit ambiguous, because of the "Clays Technology" shown on the Universal containers.

BUT ARE NOT INTERCHANGABLE.

Based on their posted definitions, and viewing their labels. I would say the answer to your question is "YES".

[pacrat]

Gettin old is a b(^$@*. but senior discounts are great HA

Us other Codgerfied individuals call that "Senior Brain Farts".

[eaglemike]

In Richard Lees book Modern Reloading, 1996 copyright, he refers to clays powder and universal clays powder in the 9mm section. When he calls for universal clays, is that what is just h-universal today? Thanks in advance for any help...captn-tin...Found answer in this forum...funny thing is it was asked by ME. Gettin old is a b(^$@*. but senior discounts are great HA

Yes, the current name is just "Universal."

[rsrocket1]

The old names were:
1. Universal Clays
2. International Clays
3. Clays

Now they are:
1. Universal
2. International
3. Clays

They are similar in burn rates (but not necessarily interchangeable with the Alliant powders):
1. Unique
2. Green Dot
3. Red Dot

The "Clays technology" burns cleaner than the Alliant powders. They were manufactured in Australia by ADI and sold as
1. AS-70N
2. AP-50N
3. AS-30N

Manufacturing of "Clays technology" powders has since moved to Canada and have similar burn characteristics BY WEIGHT, NOT VOLUME. Most loaders check and adjust their powder measures when starting a load session but a lot of older shotgun shooters simply dump their new powder into the hopper without changing bushings. This could be disastrous and there have been warnings about this.

[captn-tin]

Thanks to all for the input....captn-tin