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  • tabascoz28
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 3364

    What powder is S&B using for their x39?

    I'm not even going to tumble this. And maybe if all the powders for rifle and pistol are this clean it will greatly decrease cleaning time.

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    Waldog
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 528

    A factory does not reveal what powder they use for their ammo. It usually is not a "canister powder" available to reloaders.

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      justMike
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 723

      from what I have heard, if you want clean cases after firing, a good bet is Vihtavuori powders. Not cheap though.

      Vihtavuori offers rifle reloading data for numerous calibers and bullets for match and hunting purposes. Never exceed maximum loads.

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        slayer61
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2014
        • 1402

        I'm not sayin' you'll find it, but if you want to look at close up, clear pictures of MANY types of powder, look into https://www.ilrc.ucf.edu/powders/sam...hp?powder_id=1
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          tabascoz28
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2016
          • 3364

          Company owned by CBC (Brazilian) since 2009 and based in Czech Republic. VV is in Finland, maybe it's cheaper for them to do a deal. They are still reasonably cheap pre 2020. I see SB 9mm all the time.

          And maybe for the civilians they jack up the price. I know that Lapua uses VV for their .338 loads. Never used them, wonder if they come out cleaned after shooting also. ha ha

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            tabascoz28
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2016
            • 3364

            Originally posted by slayer61
            I'm not sayin' you'll find it, but if you want to look at close up, clear pictures of MANY types of powder, look into https://www.ilrc.ucf.edu/powders/sam...hp?powder_id=1
            Finally now I don't have to hunt down pictures of the powder taken by other people. Thanks.

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              tabascoz28
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2016
              • 3364

              But according to the FBI, W296 and H110 are different. W having one extra (4-nitrodiphenylamine). Data from 2005

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                divingin
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2015
                • 2522

                Originally posted by justMike
                from what I have heard, if you want clean cases after firing, a good bet is Vihtavuori powders. Not cheap though.

                https://www.vihtavuori.com/reloading.../?cartridge=85
                Vit powder burns very clean in my 6BR.

                Where Varget requires 2-3 wet patches to come out a light gray, and RL-15 takes 3-5, N140 and N133 usually clean up by the 2nd patch. It's a little more expensive; not a whole lot more when you amortize the cost over the number of rounds.

                No experience with VV pistol powders.

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                • #9
                  Fat Albert
                  Junior Member
                  • Jan 2021
                  • 16

                  If it's ball powder my bet would be on Lovex or PB Clermont.

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                  • #10
                    Divernhunter
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2010
                    • 8753

                    some of you do not seem to understand that the big manufactures use powder that is not a "canister" powder that we can buy.
                    It MAY look like one but it is not. Also over time you can find ball or stick powder in the brass of the same load from the manufacture. They buy a bulk powder and then load to a specific pressure and FPS. Different lots of ammo may have different powders in them.

                    The only ammo that was ever loaded with a real canister powder was some of the early 264win mag ammo and it used IMR7828. This is the only one I have ever heard of using canister type powder
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                    • #11
                      hambam105
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 7083

                      Cartridge powder type and powder weight is a trade secret.

                      If & When someone gives you specifics then he is either a liar or a trader.

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                      • #12
                        alland
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 565

                        Originally posted by tabascoz28
                        But according to the FBI, W296 and H110 are different. W having one extra (4-nitrodiphenylamine). Data from 2005
                        According to Hodgdon, the company that markets both of them, W296 and H110 are the same powder. Only the label on the container is different.

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                        • #13
                          shamrock12
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2016
                          • 742

                          Originally posted by alland
                          According to Hodgdon, the company that markets both of them, W296 and H110 are the same powder. Only the label on the container is different.
                          Probably was an old data. A buddy of mine told me they have been the same since around mid 2000s. Those tests must have been done just before they both became common.

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