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  • Geofois
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 1609

    Bullet puller collet measures .260"...is it for .224"?

    I bought a Pacific bullet puller, basically same as the RCBS. The threads for the collet is the same for the RCBS. The seller said the 2 collets were 30 cal so .308 and I imagine .312 also. It worked fine. When I used the other I think it's flexing down too much to squeeze the .224" bullets. Anyone out there with an RCBS that can tell me what the inside diameter of their .224" collet measures?

    When I put a 6.5mm bullet into it, it won't slide in so it's something smaller than that. Maybe it's smaller than .260". I used my digital caliper but maybe I flexed it out when measuring. It would have to be 22cal or 6mm I guess.
    Last edited by Geofois; 06-05-2021, 7:06 PM.
  • #2
    'ol shooter
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    • Mar 2011
    • 4646

    Might be for 6mm or .257, as in Roberts.
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    • #3
      JagerDog
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      • May 2011
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      Prolly .257. I didn't measure my .257 (25-06) but the .223 measures .225.
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      • #4
        Geofois
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 1609

        That makes sense. There is a few 25 cal bullets that it would work for. I'll order a 22 cal collet. Thanks guys

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        • #5
          Divernhunter
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          • May 2010
          • 8753

          I do not have the Hornady puller but all the collets for my RCBS are marked as to what dia bullets they are designed for. You may also be able to find out if it has a part number by looking on the Hornady website.
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          • #6
            pacrat
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            • May 2014
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            OK, suggest you place the collet in the tool and tighten it all the way and measure. Then do the same with the collet removed from the tool.

            Here are some numbers for you, single digit after / denotes # of jaws. Some have 3 some 4.

            All are RCBS collets

            22/3 ....................tight - .215" Relaxed - .235"

            25/4 .................... " - .208" Relaxed - .243" second digit is marked very lightly, so may be 24 not 25, but looks more like 5 even with magnifying glass.

            7mm/4 ................. " - .225" Relaxed - .282"

            30/3 .................... " - .275" Relaxed - .307"

            3 of the 4 measured UNDER the designated caliber in relaxed state.

            Easily mitigated by holding down on the collet stem when raising ram. So collet isn't bound by tool body.

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            • #7
              JagerDog
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              • May 2011
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              Originally posted by pacrat
              OK, suggest you place the collet in the tool and tighten it all the way and measure. Then do the same with the collet removed from the tool.

              Here are some numbers for you, single digit after / denotes # of jaws. Some have 3 some 4.

              All are RCBS collets

              22/3 ....................tight - .215" Relaxed - .235"

              25/4 .................... " - .208" Relaxed - .243" second digit is marked very lightly, so may be 24 not 25, but looks more like 5 even with magnifying glass.

              7mm/4 ................. " - .225" Relaxed - .282"

              30/3 .................... " - .275" Relaxed - .307"

              3 of the 4 measured UNDER the designated caliber in relaxed state.

              Easily mitigated by holding down on the collet stem when raising ram. So collet isn't bound by tool body.
              They might be smaller cuz you squeezed 'em so tight.

              I'd try to avoid over-ranging collets. They won't get nearly as good of grip as the jaws will be well out of parallel. More likely to imprint on bullet too to get enough stiction.
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              • #8
                Geofois
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 1609

                Thanks guys. Sounds like for sure it's not for .224". It's a Pacific collet I think and nothing came up when I googled for their collets. Probably from a long time ago. Here is a picture of the "1" marked on it. You'd think "1" would be for the smallest caliber.
                Last edited by Geofois; 12-24-2021, 11:49 AM.

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                • #9
                  pacrat
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                  • May 2014
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                  Originally posted by Geofois
                  Thanks guys. Sounds like for sure it's not for .224". It's a Pacific collet I think and nothing came up when I googled for their collets. Probably from a long time ago. Here is a picture of the "1" marked on it. You'd think "1" would be for the smallest caliber.
                  As to bolded, ...... Possible you got some bad info from former owner. Collets act by either pushing them down into a smaller dia die body. Or pulling them up into a smaller dia die body.

                  Push type are chamfered at the work end. Pull type are flared outward at the work end.

                  Pacific collets [according to google and Ebay] are the push type. https://www.ebay.com/itm/39331257869...IAAOSwBgRgmrde

                  Like Forster, Hornady, and others. RCBS collets are the pull type. The two are not compatible and cannot be used interchangeably.

                  Push collets have no threads. Pull collets do.


                  ETA................GEO proof read your OP.
                  Last edited by pacrat; 06-06-2021, 2:57 PM.

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                    Geofois
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 1609

                    Originally posted by pacrat
                    As to bolded, ...... Possible you got some bad info from former owner. Collets act by either pushing them down into a smaller dia die body. Or pulling them up into a smaller dia die body.

                    Push type are chamfered at the work end. Pull type are flared outward at the work end.

                    Pacific collets [according to google and Ebay] are the push type. https://www.ebay.com/itm/39331257869...IAAOSwBgRgmrde

                    Like Forster, Hornady, and others. RCBS collets are the pull type. The two are not compatible and cannot be used interchangeably.

                    Push collets have no threads. Pull collets do.


                    ETA................GEO proof read your OP.
                    Thank you. Mine is almost identical to the RCBS ones. I've even read you can interchange the collets and so far that seems to be the case since I measure the threading on the collet. The one on ebay is different than mine. I can send a side view but it's identical to RCBS.

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                    • #11
                      pacrat
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                      • May 2014
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                      Originally posted by Geofois
                      Thank you. Mine is almost identical to the RCBS ones. I've even read you can interchange the collets and so far that seems to be the case since I measure the threading on the collet. The one on ebay is different than mine. I can send a side view but it's identical to RCBS.
                      What did my previous post say regarding "threaded collets"?

                      Is your collet marked "PACIFIC"?

                      Still want this smelly food?

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                      • #12
                        Geofois
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1609

                        Originally posted by pacrat
                        What did my previous post say regarding "threaded collets"?

                        Is your collet marked "PACIFIC"?

                        Still want this smelly food?

                        Correct, it's a Pacific pull for sure just like the RCBS. I'll probably just order an RCBS 22 cal collet if I need one. Looks like my 30 cal collet says "3" on it.
                        Last edited by Geofois; 12-24-2021, 11:49 AM.

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                        • #13
                          pacrat
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                          • May 2014
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                          OK, now that we know for sure what we are looking at.

                          Yours is undoubtedly a very early Pacific Tool Co. puller. Prior to Hornady buying them in the 1970s.

                          And switching to PUSH collets but continued to label them Pacific for an unspecified time. As shown in the E-barf link.

                          More numbers for you. Opening in business end of tool body is .680".

                          Business end dia. of collets goes from .675 to .685" dia. That is for 6 different collets.

                          OAL of 6 collets go from 1.870" to 1.895"

                          Stem is 3/8-16" standard SAE course threads.

                          You can now compare RCBS collets to your existing Pacifics.

                          Now, about that "smelly food" that has been stinking up my loading bench???

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                          • #14
                            Geofois
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1609

                            aaahhhhhh smelly food, now I get it hahhahha. Took me a second. I'll love to add some seasoning to the smelly food and see how they taste =). Are you far from Pasadena?

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