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  • Greg Curci
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2020
    • 91

    Lock n load AP cycling problems

    I have a lock n load AP. I have one station on both shell plates (9mm and .45acp) that doesn't index properly to load primer. I've tried adjusting the prawl to no avail, I thought I had a bad shell plate but when second one had same problem I think my timing is off. Can someone please help me with this timing issue. I can tell which one has the issue and manually move plate but I shouldn't have to. I've watched YouTube videos on getting the pawls adjusted properly but I still have one that doesn't line up. Thank you
  • #2
    SandDiegoDuner
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 526

    Do you know what crimped in primered cases look like?

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    • #3
      Sweetscience
      Member
      • Jul 2020
      • 325

      Where is the timing off on relation to priming? Is the shell holder moving too far or too short?

      Which direction are you manually adjusting to seat primers counter clockwise or clockwise?



      This should fix it-speaking from someone who had the same experience. If this doesn’t work then it could be that your primer seater is catching or that you’ll need to send it in for service.
      Last edited by Sweetscience; 06-05-2021, 12:58 AM.

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      • #4
        drkphibr
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 2466

        I've found adjusting the pawls by "guesstimate" (1/8") turns can be a challenge, especially for those confused about which pawl controls which alignment/movement of the shellplate.

        So, here's a video on my demonstration of a guy who made some foolproof tools for aligning the LnL pawls as well as primer alignment...



        Worth the small price (IMO) as well as knowing your pawls are perfectly aligned and removes ALL the guess work.

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        • #5
          baih777
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Jul 2011
          • 5680

          Originally posted by SandDiegoDuner
          Do you know what crimped in primered cases look like?
          ^^^^^^^ check this first.
          Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
          I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
          I'm Back.

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          • #6
            Greg Curci
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2020
            • 91

            All my empty cases have been swaged with an RCBS swager.

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            • #7
              baih777
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Jul 2011
              • 5680

              I use these to check my swaging.
              They have sm and lg.


              Or any of your friends have a hand primer. Then you can check a few that way.

              Those paws are hard to get right. It takes time and frustration.
              I think mine took three mornings of !!!!!!!
              But works fine now.
              Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
              I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
              I'm Back.

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              • #8
                kblack583
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2008
                • 704

                When you say it isn't lined up is this a visual inspection where primer is not centered in shell plate opening or is it based on primers are not seating fluidly on the downward stroke?

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                • #9
                  Pablo5959
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 1289

                  Make sure the spring loaded balls on the bottom of the shell plate are free of gunk and dry lubed.
                  The indents on the bottom plate are clean and the primer carrier groove is clean and dry lube.
                  The shell plate needs to click into the indents to line up.
                  Clean out the primer punch, gunk gets in there too.
                  Do these things first before messing with the pawls.

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                  • #10
                    9mmepiphany
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 8075

                    If you're still having an issue, you need to take the guesswork out of adjusting your pawls and use the correct tool to set your timing.

                    I thought I had my LNL AP timming pretty close...but after using Randle Bragg's alignment tools, found I was just a bit off. I think he is still having his 4th of July sale

                    ...because the journey is the worthier part...The Shepherd's Tale

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                    • #11
                      10ringshot
                      Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 128

                      Originally posted by 9mmepiphany
                      If you're still having an issue, you need to take the guesswork out of adjusting your pawls and use the correct tool to set your timing.

                      I thought I had my LNL AP timming pretty close...but after using Randle Bragg's alignment tools, found I was just a bit off. I think he is still having his 4th of July sale

                      https://www.bragginrightsprecisionreloading.com/

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