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So far reloading 223 has been a disaster.

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  • #2
    croue
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 1255

    Seating/crimping die set wrong I think.


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    • #3
      croue
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 1255

      Or your brass is WAY too long


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      • #4
        baih777
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Jul 2011
        • 5680

        i think also your die is setup wrong.
        Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
        I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
        I'm Back.

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        • #5
          Sir Toast
          Veteran Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 3140

          Originally posted by baih777
          i think also your die is setup wrong.
          +1 Re-set your decapping and resizing die. Read instructions carefully. If it isn't that one, then it's another. One die is way too low.

          Also, you have to ALWAYS decrimp .223 brass unless you're re-loaded them a couple times. I swear, as well as you decrimp the brass, some primers are tighter than a . . . . well, . . . . you know.

          I use the Lyman case prepper and it works great, but still, sometimes Primers will just not go in. If the primer is too tight, just toss the brass b/c .223 brass is dirt cheap. Just toss it and move on. It isn't worth the primer.
          Last edited by Sir Toast; 02-03-2021, 9:16 PM.

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          • #6
            baih777
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Jul 2011
            • 5680

            did you measure the brass length ?

            try this, put a piece of brass in the bullet seating die and run it thru its stroke.
            WITHOUT the bullet. see if the brass compresses like the others did.
            it it does. then you need to adjust the die.
            if it does not. then it could be the neck of the brass was not sized correctly.
            Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
            I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
            I'm Back.

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            • #7
              croue
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 1255

              I run all my 223 brass through a primer swaging every time. Just part of the prep. Now worth sorting out to me.


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              • #8
                sigguy552
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jun 2003
                • 702

                Damn, that’s like $2 in primers down the drain....

                Do you have a case gauge? Drop the case inside and see if it’s full length sized and trimmed to the correct length.

                If it is, remove the seating stem from your seating die and with the case in place, run the ram up. Now, run your seating die all the way down until contact drop the ram and do another half turn.

                Now put your seating stem back in and slowly run it down a turn at a time while measuring the overall length until you get to the OAL you need.
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                • #9
                  jsanch03
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2018
                  • 901

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                  • #10
                    Sir Toast
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 3140

                    Yeah, make sure your brass isn't too long.

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                    • #11
                      tabascoz28
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2016
                      • 3364

                      Good thing you checked your finished stuff before going another 100. Someone did that a bit ago and it was like, damn, you gotta QC every 10 or so at least.

                      It's probably the seater die, back the top all the way out and start over. What's your setup? Rig, dies, process?

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                      • #12
                        vhuang168
                        Member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 158

                        Need more info.

                        What brand/type of die set?

                        Did you resize the brass?

                        Did you follow instructions when setting up the seating die?


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                        • #13
                          LynnJr
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 7958

                          Chamfer the primer pockets and re-adjust the seater die.
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                          • #14
                            baih777
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 5680

                            Also check the case mouth. Make sure the brass was deburred. After trimming there is a burr in the inside of the case mouth that needs to be removed.
                            Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
                            I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
                            I'm Back.

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                            • #15
                              hermosabeach
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 19574

                              My guess is if you ran a new round of Ammo through your press, you would have the same result.


                              In setting up seating die, you can set a known good round or dummy round into the press.

                              Then install the seating die slowly down onto the known new round or dummy round.

                              It can get you really close when first setting up the die
                              Rule 1- ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED

                              Rule 2 -NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY (including your hands and legs)

                              Rule 3 -KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET

                              Rule 4 -BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET AND WHAT IS BEYOND IT
                              (thanks to Jeff Cooper)

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