Tula and Wolf primers

[Woodythedog]

I have read multiple negative comments regarding both Tula and Wolf primers..None of the comments...usually in the for sale forum...explain what the problem is.

The reason I am asking is I have a few hundred Tula large pistol and I am concerned about possible problems when I use them.

[glassparman]

I think mostly they just have a bad rap already so others just follow suit regardless.

Steel for one on my part. I won't shoot steel cases in my weapons.

As for the primers, I have picked up hundreds of live Tula rounds off the ground in the canyons where I pick up brass after folks. These live rounds almost always have deep enough firing pin impacts to set off the round but they are still live.

I have also bought commercial Tula Berdan primers (when they were available) for my own reloading and have experienced the same thing. I don't think it would be fair to say it is the fault of Berdan primer design because I have never had any other issues with Berdan primers other than Pakastani 303 British.

So I guess in my viewpoint it is simply their primer quality is what is in question.

Mike

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[dragon7]

I bought several thousands of Wolf rifle and pistol primers during the previous ammo and firearms scare. I was skeptical too but desperate. My fears were unfounded. The only issue I had was their primers are harder seating. Their cups have very sharp leading edges on the primer cups catching any imperfection of the primer pockets and I think they are a little oversized. Primer fails I had I realized were from not seating the primers completely to bottom of the primer pockets due to the excessive effort required and my inattention. I still have a few thousands left and plan on enjoy shooting them in my .223 loads soon.

[Duluth88]

I concur, during the first shortage i bought a case of Tula and did not have a problem. Maybe there was a problem a long time ago and that stock has been used up

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[Spyder]

They're fine. If you have them, use them.

[Cowboy T]

Actually, I use a lot of them, to the tune of thousands over the last what, 8-10 years or so. I've used them in .38/357, .45 ACP, .44 Spl/Mag, and .45 Colt (both mild and wild). They're good stuff. I don't find them hard to seat at all, be they small or large primers, in any brass except Sellier & Bellot. They go bang every time.

The Sellier & Bellot cases are the one exception, as that brass tends to have tight primer pockets. They're problematic with CCI, Federal, Fiocchi, Remington, Winchester, and Wolf/Tula, and that's a problem with the brass, not the primers. The fix is to lightly chamfer the primer pocket, and then all brands of primers go in without further issue.

I think what the OP is running into here is the primer version of "gun snobbery" or "ammo snobbery". The thinking goes, "if it ain't CCI, Federal, or Winchester, boy, it ain't no guuuud!" And that's garbage.

OP, don't get rid of 'em. Use 'em! Make ammo with them, head to the range, and practice your marksmanship.

And if you can get more Wolf/Tula primers, then do so. They represent a good value, and I like 'em.

[Sheldon]

I bought a bunch off the classifieds just around when all this mess started. Not sure how old they are but are in white green packaging. First primers I have ever bought/used that have a problem. They have a high percentage of hangfiring. They fire, but the ever so slight delay is a weird feeling and accuracy sucks. I got over 20K of them. I will try to put some dry heat to them and see if it is a moisture issue.

I have used plenty of Wolf and Tula primers before and thesr are the first I have had any issue with.

[Cowboy T]

White green packing? I've never seen that before. All the ones I've ever used were in black cartons, with either the "Wolf Performance Primers" or "TulAmmo" logo on 'em.

I'm guessing that something bad happened to these primers, probably by the seller, and he/she saw an opportunity to unload 'em. Normally Wolf/Tula primers are very reliable. I haven't had a single dud or delayed-fire yet.

[Sheldon]

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It is a shame as they are much used small pistol primers.

[five.five-six]

Those primers are garbage, the will blow up your gun and make your penis shrivel.

I’m willing to take them off your hands and I’ll dispose of them properly.

[Corbin Dallas]

I have been using Tula/Wolf primers since 2008 when they were STUPID cheap to buy a brick or 10 compared to Winchester.

This is my experience loading well over 100k combined of SPP, LPP and SRP.


The early manufactured ones - 2008 to around later 2009 had really hard primer cups and the cups were not consistent in their depth. SRP often had light primer strikes in my AR due to this very hard cup. SPP was not as bad, but every so often my glock would get a light strike. A second attempt would usually light if off and this brings me to the inconsistency of the depth of the cup.

Fast forward a few years and all the early issues are completely worked out. I ran SPP and LPP in all my glock pistols for IDPA and USPSA with only an occasional light strike. My HK USC/UMP conversion would eat everything all day long without issue.

The newer SRP and SRPM primers from Tula are flawless. With that said, I run my AR with factory parts. No lightened BCGs or titanium firing pins or any other race gun type mods that could interfere with a good strike to the primer.


A lot of people had bought these early in their manufacturing and thus have associated the name with junk. Those issues are far behind us now and IMHO, tula/wolf makes a quality product.

FYI - none of these primers are steel based.

And FWIW - Tula is a manufacturer, WOLF is an importer.

[highpower790]

The only issue I have with copper wolf primers are thin cups.if running with a max load ,these will likely pierce.

[Corbin Dallas]

The only issue I have with copper wolf primers are thin cups.if running with a max load ,these will likely pierce.

Agreed, especially for 223. The standard SRP is not a good choice.

They have SRP 556 and SRP-M

[Dooder]

Ask for an issue and everyone will have one. Personally I miss those primers. Wolf large pistol and rifle are my favorite primer. Very consistent and tough. Tula for small rifle and pistol was good. I have some Tula berdan primers too haaha. I've loaded many, many, many thousands of Russian primers. These and the Magtechs were the best deal in town for a while...anyways.

I've found that they're good for guns with strong actions like stock Glocks, stock revos, milsurps. No good in my race guns.

A lot of people have issue seating them. Primers from that side of the world run a hair larger. Even shotshell, the Euro 209 is larger. Try putting a 209 in a Fiocchi hull and you'll see. So if you swage for them then the brass will be loose for American primers. Use them for few times fired or crappy Federal brass.

[OpenSightsOnly]

For 223 gas guns, I have extensively used Wolf/Tula Small Rife Magnum primers (KVB-556/NCSRM) for the last 10 years. No Issues!

These primers are as good as CCIs BR4 with 24.5 gr of Varget and SMK 77s.

Folks run into issues due to bad brass prep (primer pocket crimp) or failure to properly seat the primers.