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  • Bkimsf85
    Junior Member
    • Aug 2020
    • 50

    Shipping Primers?

    Was able to secure some SPP for my brother the other day but he lives out of state. Read online that it needs to be shipped with proper hazmat credentials, etc.

    Anyone know of or have experience shipping primers through UPS/FEDEX hubs or through a third party shipper?

    Thanks!
  • #2
    edgerly779
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2009
    • 19871

    Look for ffl with that license. Cost 150-300 for individual to get certified. Some clueless buyer asked me to ship him primers and powder..
    Last edited by edgerly779; 01-12-2021, 5:14 AM.

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    • #3
      fnlrun
      Member
      • Aug 2018
      • 486

      You can ship it fedex ground just fine. I sent off a bunch of blanks with no problems

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      • #4
        fnlrun
        Member
        • Aug 2018
        • 486

        Originally posted by edgerly779
        Some clueless buyer asked me to ship him primers and powder..
        Seems a bit harsh considering the guy didn't know........

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        • #5
          divingin
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2015
          • 2522

          Originally posted by fnlrun
          You can ship it fedex ground just fine. I sent off a bunch of blanks with no problems
          Blanks are not primers. Completely different regulations. Even primed but otherwise empty cartridge cases are regulated differently than discrete primers.


          Some clueless buyer asked me to ship him primers and powder..
          Seems a bit harsh considering the guy didn't know........
          Which is why the word "clueless" was in there.

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          • #6
            1911-CV
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2018
            • 651

            Couple of threads on this, good luck finding anyone who can legally ship them. Primers are in a different 'hazard' category than ammo, primed cases or firearms. BIG fines if you are caught circumventing the regulations.

            Could you put the SPP in some cases and ship those? A LOT easier to ship.

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            • #7
              fnlrun
              Member
              • Aug 2018
              • 486

              Well blanks have a loaded primer in them. sooooooo, your wrong Plus my Brother is the Ground manager up here in Redding and if he says it cool then its cool

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              • #8
                mikeyr
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2011
                • 1554

                OP, sounds to me like a road trip to your brothers needs to be scheduled, any reason for a road trip is a good reason, but seeing your brother and picking up primers is a really good reason.
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                • #9
                  jeffyhog
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 2759

                  Originally posted by fnlrun
                  Well blanks have a loaded primer in them. sooooooo, your wrong Plus my Brother is the Ground manager up here in Redding and if he says it cool then its cool
                  That is not accurate. Loaded ammunition, blanks, even primed brass are fine to ship as a limited quantity (formerly ORM-D). Primers are a different hazard class and require full haz-mat shipping papers generated by a shipper with a commercial haz-mat account.

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                  • #10
                    fnlrun
                    Member
                    • Aug 2018
                    • 486

                    So which is it? Primed brass is fine to ship or require a butt load of paper work? Because I literally payed $12 declared the contents and they were off.

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                    • #11
                      beetle
                      The Clip guy
                      CGN Contributor
                      • May 2009
                      • 1677

                      Originally posted by fnlrun
                      So which is it? Primed brass is fine to ship or require a butt load of paper work? Because I literally payed $12 declared the contents and they were off.
                      primed brass is not considered a regulated item, and can be shipped via UPS or FedEx ground. Note that primed brass means that there is the primer and brass, but it cannot have powder or a projectile.

                      blanks and loaded ammunition are considered can be shipped in limited quantities when declared to UPS or FedEx and labeled with the appropriate sticker. Note that the previously allowd ORM-D sticker has been replaced with the square with two edges blacked out.

                      Powder and stand alone primers are out of the realm for normal people to ship. requires special training and certification to ship.

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                      • #12
                        fnlrun
                        Member
                        • Aug 2018
                        • 486

                        I think were on the same page but speaking a different language lol

                        Primers are fine to ship. No issues. That's what I was referring to. Were you referring to Powder?

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                        • #13
                          1911-CV
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 651

                          THIS IS NOT CORRECT - "Primers are fine to ship. No issues.".

                          You said you shipped "blanks"; primers in a case. That is easy. A bunch of primers by themselves (not in cases) goes into a different hazardous goods category. I suspect they are more concerned about some kind of chain reaction if the primers are not in cases.

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                          • #14
                            kcheung2
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 4387

                            Originally posted by beetle
                            primed brass is not considered a regulated item, and can be shipped via UPS or FedEx ground. Note that primed brass means that there is the primer and brass, but it cannot have powder or a projectile.

                            blanks and loaded ammunition are considered can be shipped in limited quantities when declared to UPS or FedEx and labeled with the appropriate sticker. Note that the previously allowd ORM-D sticker has been replaced with the square with two edges blacked out.

                            Powder and stand alone primers are out of the realm for normal people to ship. requires special training and certification to ship.
                            This is correct. A box of primers, for practical purposes, can't be shipped by normal people.

                            Primed brass (otherwise empty cases, but with a live primer) can be shipped with minimal regulations.

                            Ammunition can be shipped but must be declared. Take it to the main UPS facility, not the local UPS Stores.
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                            • #15
                              divingin
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2015
                              • 2522

                              Originally posted by fnlrun
                              I think were on the same page but speaking a different language lol

                              Primers are fine to ship. No issues. That's what I was referring to. Were you referring to Powder?
                              Read the above posts.

                              Primers and powder are hazmat. They can be shipped, but require someone trained in hazardous materials shipping to initiate the shipment. There is a route that will allow a non-certified person to ship, but will run several- to many- hundreds of dollars in fees.

                              Primers put into otherwise empty cartridge cases are classified differently than primers alone. They are fine to ship via USPS, UPS, Fedex, etc.

                              Primers put into cartridge cases along with powder and bullets become (formerly) ORM-D restricted (which is different than hazmat, but precludes using USPS to ship, I believe.)

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