Copying factory loads

[y-not]

How would you go about reloading pistol rounds that can be used in multiple hand guns without doing load development?
I want my reloads to be like factory, in the fact that if you put it in just about any pistol and they will feed, fire, and eject.
I have developed special loads for my 1911 that work great.
Should I just use the mid powder load data suggested in the powder mfg. data ?
I have everything needed to reload.

[2shotjoe]

You'll need the exact powder, bullet, brass and primer. Also, the loading data.

Or you can load a round to the same weight and speed as a round you like without having to hunt to components.

First, You'll have problems getting components.

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[y-not]

You'll need the exact powder, bullet, brass and primer. Also, the loading data.

Or you can load a round to the same weight and speed as a round you like without having to hunt to components.

First, You'll have problems getting components.

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I have enough components to keep me busy for a while, so no issue there.
It's the function of the factory loads that I want to achieve and not the exact load.
I can copy the bullet weight and OAL...
So if I use Tightgroup mid powder charge, 230gr RN, copy the factory OAL. Will It function in a HK USP 45, Ruger SR 45, and a 1911?
I know.........load up a batch and try it, but if someones experience can save me some time I would appreciate it.
I consider myself a newbeeee in reloading

[Txtaxman]

The reloads developed for your Model 1911 may or may not chamber in another pistol, but if you set up your sizing die using a case gauge to check them, they will chamber in another pistol as long as it has a standard chamber.

With respect to the powder charge and bullet, a mid-range load that functions in your 1911 will most likely function in other pistols. Factory fit and velocity levels would be your goal in order to achieve factory reliability.

It might help answer your question, if we knew a little more about the tools at your disposal. For example, do you have a chronograph, micrometer, caliper, and/or case gauge available?

[Elgatodeacero]

For some reason you seem to be trying to skip the normal safety procedures involved in developing a load from your components.

There is no safe way to “jump” into the middle of the powder load data and insure you have a safe load. That is why you start at the bottom of the data and work up until you get the performance you want in a way that is pressure safe.

Shortcuts are not your friend. Do it right, you only need to load half a dozen batches of 10 rounds to get where you want safely.

[y-not]

The reloads developed for your Model 1911 may or may not chamber in another pistol, but if you set up your sizing die using a case gauge to check them, they will chamber in another pistol as long as it has a standard chamber.

With respect to the powder charge and bullet, a mid-range load that functions in your 1911 will most likely function in other pistols. Factory fit and velocity levels would be your goal in order to achieve factory reliability.

It might help answer your question, if we knew a little more about the tools at your disposal. For example, do you have a chronograph, micrometer, caliper, and/or case gauge available?

So Velocity is what I will have to aim (pun intended) for.
Fit is always a requirement. I have everything except a chrono. So I would need one to properly do what I want

[Dooder]

Gotta get a chrono. Without one you're just guessing.

There's nothing magic to factory ammo. It's very easy to make ammo that performs better than factory ammo in all respects. However with 1911's, its not always the ammo that the culprit for feeding issues. There's much to tune and keep in spec with a 1911 and you can certainly make a 1911 feed a certain kind of ammo.

If your pistol is not a custom or specialized build then it should run SAAMI spec. If it doesn't then the issue lies in the gun and not the ammo. But if you already have a load that works then why not keep doing that?

[y-not]

Gotta get a chrono. Without one you're just guessing.

There's nothing magic to factory ammo. It's very easy to make ammo that performs better than factory ammo in all respects. However with 1911's, its not always the ammo that the culprit for feeding issues. There's much to tune and keep in spec with a 1911 and you can certainly make a 1911 feed a certain kind of ammo.

If your pistol is not a custom or specialized build then it should run SAAMI spec. If it doesn't then the issue lies in the gun and not the ammo. But if you already have a load that works then why not keep doing that?

The 1911 is custom and I have loaded enough ammo for it. Recoil is less than a 9mm, no feeding issues, and was the most accurate of the loads I made.

I guess I will be searching this site for all the posts about chornos. Gotta learn before I spend the $$.

[sofbak]

What's wrong with doing a series of ladder loads as elgatodeacero described above? I never tried to load to a specific velocity. I cared about accuracy and group size.

Load some ladder series, shoot them, pick which one shot the best for you and your gun.

Seems simple enough.

[y-not]

What's wrong with doing a series of ladder loads as elgatodeacero described above? I never tried to load to a specific velocity. I cared about accuracy and group size.

Load some ladder series, shoot them, pick which one shot the best for you and your gun.

Seems simple enough.

I am not going to have a special developed load for each pistol, why would anybody want 20-30 different loads?
My 1911 is the one I have the perfect load all the others I want a "one size fits all" type load so it doesn't matter which box or pistol I pull out for practice because it will work.

[galun]

I’ve developed a recipe to emulate federal HST so I can practice with “home defense” rounds. Here’s what I did.

First I found a bullet profile that best emulate the HST bullet in shape and weight. Then I can use a similar OAL. I used a RNFP coated bullet. To really emulate the factory round I should have used a JHP, but I was just making plinking practice rounds so I used a cheaper bullet.

Then I pulled a factory round, look at the powder, and weight the charge. Different powder will have different characteristics and burn rate, which will affect how you perceive recoil. No one knows the powder that the factory round uses, but if you use a powder that weights similar to whatever was in the factory round, it should be close. I picked a powder owned by the same manufacturer - Since federal owns Alliant powder and I was trying to emulate federal HST, I looked for alliant powder to develop my load. The federal HST round uses ball powder so I picked alliant power pistol.

Last is chrono. Shoot the factory round out of your gun and find the velocity. Try to use a powder that weights the same as what was in factory round, and get the same velocity. Note that if you use a coated or plated bullet, the velocity will be different from a factory round which is most likely FMJ.

Anyways I got it pretty close, and the recoil felt pretty similar, so I settled on my recipe.

[Dooder]

The 1911 is custom and I have loaded enough ammo for it. Recoil is less than a 9mm, no feeding issues, and was the most accurate of the loads I made.



I guess I will be searching this site for all the posts about chornos. Gotta learn before I spend the $$.

I hear you. I have a few set ups to run specific ammo and whatnot. And I too load general ammo to feed all my other stuff. For general blasting ammo, I would just pick a load with the velocity needed, verify with a chrono and be done.

Chronos... I've had a lot. I've been through the old Chrony, CED, CE, two versions of Magneto, Lab Radar...and the winner for me is the G2. Most versatile, no velocity caps, bluetooth is excellent, reliability is excellent, and its like 200 bucks. To chrono everything I shoot I'd need at least 2 chronos and twice the money haaha. But G2 covers everything. Thats what works for me. Good luck, let us know what you get!

[M1NM]

You can't "duplicate" factory loads. They will not tell you the exact makeup. Sometimes they use a blend of powders.
You can load for the same performance by looking up the bullet weight and FPS of the factory load and match those specs using bullets and powder you have.

[sigstroker]

A chrono isn't necessary. What's factory hardball supposed to be, like 850 fps? Just look in the manual for a load that makes that velocity. Start lower as mentioned above, and work your way toward the target velocity.

Might not be perfect, but maybe close enough.

[sigstroker]

A chrono isn't necessary. What's factory hardball supposed to be, like 850 fps? Just look in the manual for a load that makes that velocity. Start lower as mentioned above, and work your way toward the target velocity.

Might not be perfect, but maybe close enough.