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  • xCrunch
    Junior Member
    • May 2020
    • 7

    Reloading specs for 160 gr Hitek bullets in 9mm with W231?

    I'm looking for reloading specs for some 160gr hitek coated bullets using W231 in a 9mm. I see a lot of people referring to N320, but that seems a bit hard to get right now.

    I'm shooting from a Glock 19X right now.

    Feel free to tell me I'm a noob for thinking that's possible if it's not
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    hambam105
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2013
    • 7083

    160 seems a bit heavy for a 9mm.
    Personally I'd never load a 9mm anything over 157.

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    • #3
      kcheung2
      Veteran Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 4387

      Not many people go up to 160 grains in 9mm. In fact, you're the first I've heard, the heaviest I've heard being used is 147 grain.
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      • #4
        jsanch03
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2018
        • 820

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        • #5
          xCrunch
          Junior Member
          • May 2020
          • 7

          Incredible find.

          And you are correct...I got my hands on some 160gr Hitek rounds. I also got 147gr Hitek rounds which I will be loading w/ N320 (as soon as it gets here). That data is readily available. I just wanted to see what I could do with my 160gr in 9mm if possible.

          Thank you for the direction. I'll update here w/ the results.

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          • #6
            McGuiver
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2016
            • 1022

            Reloading specs for 160 gr Hitek bullets in 9mm with W231?

            I have shot something similar in 165 grain weight in 9mm. They shot very well.

            Here is the load data I used. It is Alliant BE-86 powder.




            These were shot is a Ruger P-89, Glock 17, and Glock 34. Hope this helps.

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            Last edited by McGuiver; 10-30-2020, 4:57 AM.

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            • #7
              ysr_racer
              Banned
              • Mar 2006
              • 12014

              Lost of people shoot 160gr bullets in .38 short colt in ICORE matches. .38 Short Colt is basically a rimmed 9mm.

              I use an oal of 1.2

              Here's some info on HP38 which is the same thing as 231

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              • #8
                Sailormilan2
                Veteran Member
                • Nov 2006
                • 3458

                Personally, I don't like faster burning powders like W231 under really heavy bullets.

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                • #9
                  ysr_racer
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 12014

                  I know 3gr of Titegroup or Clays will work with a 160gr Bayou bullet RN, because I load tons of them.

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                  • #10
                    hambam105
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 7083

                    All of these loads appear okay, shouldn't argue with success.

                    Here is a piece of advice that the man who assembled my 9mm told me:

                    A very light load, ~ 1.2, 1.5, 2.2 grains of XYZ powder may work. But,
                    the margin of error or any deviation resulting in throwing a heavier charge can
                    send your pressures to the moon quickly.

                    It was a real bummer because the most accurate .38 Special load I created was
                    with Clays. And they burned the cleanest to boot!

                    Take it for what it's worth. Motor on. And see you on the beach, I mean range.
                    Range. I meant to say, Range, as in shooting. See you there. Soon.
                    Last edited by hambam105; 10-30-2020, 8:10 PM.

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                    • #11
                      xCrunch
                      Junior Member
                      • May 2020
                      • 7

                      Originally posted by hambam105
                      All of these loads appear okay, shouldn't argue with success.

                      Here is a piece of advice that the man who assembled my 9mm told me:

                      A very light load, ~ 1.2, 1.5, 2.2 grains of XYZ powder may work. But,
                      the margin of error or any deviation resulting in throwing a heavier charge can
                      send your pressures to the moon quickly.

                      It was a real bummer because the most accurate .38 Special load I created was
                      with Clays. And they burned the cleanest to boot!

                      Take it for what it's worth. Motor on. And see you on the beach, I mean range.
                      Range. I meant to say, Range, as in shooting. See you there. Soon.
                      There are two things I'm worried about, squib and over-pressurized ammo. The link above about loading heavier bullets has a reference to some ballistic software that will help calculate pressure, but it's like $150 and I'm not ready to spend that on software to help me solve one problem.

                      The good news is that I found some reload data for N320 from the manufacturer, so that gives me hope...once I get my N320...next week.

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                      • #12
                        ysr_racer
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 12014

                        Clays works well, and 3 grains fills the case almost half way. So if you double charge it, it's pretty obvious.

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                        • #13
                          Sandspider500
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2018
                          • 1140

                          9mm
                          Lee 158gr rn length is .72 with a plain base gas check(163gr actual weight)
                          1.245 OAL
                          4.4gr be-86
                          WSP
                          1001fps avg

                          I'd say the pressure is around 28k-29k psi. If I loaded them .1 shorter I would think the pressure would be way over. I'd go with what ysr is recommending. Probably start at 2.9 with 231 loaded as long out as you can for your gun, use a chronograph and stop somewhere between 850-880fps with 231.
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                          • #14
                            Caligula36
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Apr 2017
                            • 1810

                            Originally posted by ysr_racer
                            I know 3gr of Titegroup or Clays will work with a 160gr Bayou bullet RN, because I load tons of them.
                            Interesting. I've been looking at the Bayou 160gn RN. 158gn cast RNFP took 3.4gn of Titegroup to get just over the 120PF for ICORE.

                            Does the difference of using a roll crimp on cast affect the results? These Bayou bullets do not have a canalure for a roll crimp.
                            Last edited by Caligula36; 04-26-2022, 10:53 PM.
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                            • #15
                              eaglemike
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 3912

                              Originally posted by Caligula36
                              Interesting. I've been looking at the Bayou 160gn RN. 158gn cast RNFP took 3.4gn of Titegroup to get just over the 130PF for ICORE.

                              Does the difference of using a roll crimp on cast affect the results? These Bayou bullets do not have a canalure for a roll crimp.
                              ICORE is 120pf unless changed.
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                              There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

                              It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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