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  • Donny1
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 2341

    Question About Crimp

    I loaded some Xtreme 200gn 45acp CPRN for the first time and I noticed that my crimp at 1.230 was still just slightly on the ogive (curve) of the bullet. I only just very lightly crimp to smooth the edge on pistol cases.

    Does it matter If the crimp is not on the full diameter of the bullet? I can go longer but power will suffer.
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    BajaJames83
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2011
    • 6037

    You might want to load a little longer OAL I load 1.24 to 1.25 for 200gr plated
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    • #3
      Ruger15151
      Member
      • Feb 2014
      • 259

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      • #4
        Donny1
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2010
        • 2341

        Ok, I can easily load to the max, I'm not touching the lands until 1.320.

        Thanks!

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        • #5
          robert101
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 1997

          In semiauto cartridges when I read "crimp" I think "remove the bell or flare". Remember the case will seat on the case mouth. You don't want to reduce the case mouth to a point where the cartridge slides into the chamber beyond the case mouth.

          I will usually load to max cartridge length and test for fitment in the chamber and case gauge. I always plunk my new bullets to test for fit. If I get any trouble in feeding then I consider increasing bullet seating depth incrementally.

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          • #6
            Donny1
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2010
            • 2341

            Originally posted by robert101
            In semiauto cartridges when I read "crimp" I think "remove the bell or flare".
            Exactly

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              Ruger15151
              Member
              • Feb 2014
              • 259

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              • #8
                Donny1
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2010
                • 2341

                Originally posted by Ruger15151
                Your 45 ACP should measure about .471 at the case mouth. Anything less will mean that you are starting to crimp the bullet
                Thank you for the info. I checked some of mine and they are slightly tapering down from .471, maybe .001-.003 smaller. I will back that off a little. They have all functioned perfectly so I didn't know there was, or could be an issue. Also, mixed brass so there not perfectly consistent, some are right on. I'll be checking my 9mm's as well.

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                • #9
                  Ruger15151
                  Member
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 259

                  The inconsistency in the crimp is caused by case length. Longer cases get more crimp and shorter cases get less. IF I’m loading mixed brass, generally measure several cases to get an average case length. I set my crimp die to remove the flare from the average length case.

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                  • #10
                    MongooseV8
                    Veteran Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 4426

                    It also depends on the die you are using. Some can break if not crimping into a groove.

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                    • #11
                      five.five-six
                      CGN Contributor
                      • May 2006
                      • 34870

                      Originally posted by Donny1
                      Ok, I can easily load to the max, I'm not touching the lands until 1.320.

                      Thanks!

                      .45ACP is a fairly low pressure round with a lot of case capacity. The issue is if your crimp is on the ogive, you may not be holding the bullet in place well enough to and have bullet setback. Not as big of a deal on .45, though it can be a problem but on 9, 40, 10 .357 sig, etc it can go boom.

                      I load my handgun as long as I can without mag or chambering problems. The extra space is good, then adjust load from there.

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