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  • MA5177
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 1487

    .357 load data

    So I have 500 sp magnum primers sitting around so I decided to put together some full house .357.

    Bought some brass here , a pound of H110 and a box of Speer 158g JHP.

    Looking at my Lyman manual and the data from Hodgdon, there is a big difference.

    Hodgdon says 15-16.7grains and Lyman says 16-17.3.

    I don’t need these to be mega flame throwers, just decent full house 357 to keep around.

    I don’t really have a lot of time to go back and forth to the range to work up a load, I was thinking 15.5 if H110 should do the trick? What is your favorite 158g .357 load ?
  • #2
    Kokopelli
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 3390

    Thanks for opening this topic as I'm also getting ready to reload .357 magnum using H110. I have 100 each, 158 grain JHP in Remington, Hornady and Sierra brands and a bucket of once fired brass. I have not developed any loads yet.

    Here is one old thread that mentions H110 handloads for 357 magnum. https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/....php?t=1058253 See post #6.

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    • #3
      Sandspider500
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2018
      • 1140

      357 mag
      Winchester case
      Winchester SPM
      158gr Speer JHP
      1.560 OAL
      H110
      START 14gr 27,700psi
      14.2 28,200psi
      14.4 28,800psi
      14.6 29,400psi
      14.8. 30,0000psi
      15 30,600psi
      15.2 31,200psi
      15.4 31,700psi
      15.6 32,300psi
      15.8 32,900psi
      16gr 33,500psi
      16.2 34,100psi
      16.4 34,700psi
      MAX 16.5 35,000psi
      Originally posted by Palmaris
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      • #4
        MA5177
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 1487

        Originally posted by Sandspider500
        357 mag
        Winchester case
        Winchester SPM
        158gr Speer JHP
        1.560 OAL
        H110
        START 14gr 27,700psi
        14.2 28,200psi
        14.4 28,800psi
        14.6 29,400psi
        14.8. 30,0000psi
        15 30,600psi
        15.2 31,200psi
        15.4 31,700psi
        15.6 32,300psi
        15.8 32,900psi
        16gr 33,500psi
        16.2 34,100psi
        16.4 34,700psi
        MAX 16.5 35,000psi
        Thanks, I think 15.5 will be my load

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        • #5
          Cowboy T
          Calguns Addict
          • Mar 2010
          • 5725

          Since you're using a Speer bullet, I checked with Speer's Web site. Turns out they've got handloading data for your specific bullet.

          For Hodgdon H110, the minimum is 13.9gr, and the max is 15.5, for all Speer 158gr jacketed bullets (TMJ, JHP, etc.).

          Now, since you also ask about our favorite loads, mine happens to be 13.8gr of 2400 under a 158gr LRNFP. It's about "3/4 house" power, not quite full, but still plenty of fun.
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          • #6
            NeilMo
            Member
            • Nov 2018
            • 356

            Here's a page from the Midway 357 loadmap. If you want to use other powders you can download the entire pdf file here.
            Attached Files
            Last edited by NeilMo; 08-01-2020, 7:05 AM.

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            • #7
              MA5177
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 1487

              Originally posted by Cowboy T
              Since you're using a Speer bullet, I checked with Speer's Web site. Turns out they've got handloading data for your specific bullet.

              For Hodgdon H110, the minimum is 13.9gr, and the max is 15.5, for all Speer 158gr jacketed bullets (TMJ, JHP, etc.).

              Now, since you also ask about our favorite loads, mine happens to be 13.8gr of 2400 under a 158gr LRNFP. It's about "3/4 house" power, not quite full, but still plenty of fun.
              Interesting... load data seems all over the place. Thanks!!

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              • #8
                vhuang168
                Member
                • Sep 2013
                • 158

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                • #9
                  pennstater
                  Veteran Member
                  • Aug 2010
                  • 4660

                  Cowboy T is on to something. I also use 2400 as it seems more flexible in the .357. Tho I use 158 and 180 gr cast coated bullets.

                  MLC

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                  • #10
                    MA5177
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 1487

                    Originally posted by pennstater
                    Cowboy T is on to something. I also use 2400 as it seems more flexible in the .357. Tho I use 158 and 180 gr cast coated bullets.

                    MLC

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                    • #11
                      MA5177
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 1487

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                      • #12
                        Rizzo
                        Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 444

                        I just went through a pretty lengthy load data workup using a Sierra Sportsmaster 158 grain JSP bullet.
                        I used Blue Dot, 2400, IMR4227 and H110 powders.
                        Each with five different loads.
                        All set at 1.570" COAL
                        I am shooting from my Henry Big Boy Steel 357 mag rifle.
                        I chrono'd them as well.

                        It is amazing how much difference there is in groupings from the different loads of the different powders.

                        Sometimes just a few 1/10s of a grain noticeably changed the grouping.

                        So, what I am basically saying is that you should take the time and load up some different loads and go to the range and see how they perform.

                        I ended up with 15.5 grains of H110 at 1.570" as my best groupings.
                        I shot all of them at 75 yards but ultimately made my decision on what had the tightest group at 100 yards.

                        By just using a load you got recommended on the net may work fine, but you may also be wondering if 15.8 grains might give you better accuracy.

                        Take the time and work up as load, then you KNOW.
                        Then you can confidently repeat that load in the future.

                        Good luck to you.

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                        • #13
                          MA5177
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 1487

                          Originally posted by Rizzo
                          I just went through a pretty lengthy load data workup using a Sierra Sportsmaster 158 grain JSP bullet.
                          I used Blue Dot, 2400, IMR4227 and H110 powders.
                          Each with five different loads.
                          All set at 1.570" COAL
                          I am shooting from my Henry Big Boy Steel 357 mag rifle.
                          I chrono'd them as well.

                          It is amazing how much difference there is in groupings from the different loads of the different powders.

                          Sometimes just a few 1/10s of a grain noticeably changed the grouping.

                          So, what I am basically saying is that you should take the time and load up some different loads and go to the range and see how they perform.

                          I ended up with 15.5 grains of H110 at 1.570" as my best groupings.
                          I shot all of them at 75 yards but ultimately made my decision on what had the tightest group at 100 yards.

                          By just using a load you got recommended on the net may work fine, but you may also be wondering if 15.8 grains might give you better accuracy.

                          Take the time and work up as load, then you KNOW.
                          Then you can confidently repeat that load in the future.

                          Good luck to you.
                          From

                          Thank you!! 15.5 was what I was originally thinking and I will be able to load all 450 bullets I have with one pound of H110 at that charge

                          As far as accuracy... I done really care, because I will be shooting these out of a 4” model 66 IF I ever shoot them. I will probably shoot 20-30 for testing and put the rest on the shelf.

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                          • #14
                            eaglemike
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 3938

                            One thing to pay attention to - use the same brand of brass to develop your load.

                            Years ago I loaded some hot .357, and they worked fine. I changed brass with the same load later on, and I had to work at it to get them out of the cylinder. Yes, my fault.


                            good luck!
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                            It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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                            • #15
                              MA5177
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 1487

                              Originally posted by eaglemike
                              One thing to pay attention to - use the same brand of brass to develop your load.

                              Years ago I loaded some hot .357, and they worked fine. I changed brass with the same load later on, and I had to work at it to get them out of the cylinder. Yes, my fault.


                              good luck!
                              The brass I bought is all mixed headstamp. I decided to go with 15.3 g of H110 to keep it under max. Thanks all, gunna go shoot a few this week to try out

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