Anyone use the Blackwidow Trim It 2?

[Clickjack]

Trying to process 1k 5.56 brass. I bought it cause of how fast and easy all the youtube reviews make it seem.

For me it’s taking for ever to trim the brass. I’m doing between 1 and 3 Pieces a min. requires a lot of pressure from me. And I need to measure every piece to make sure I got it below the max case length.

Any insight or suggestions?

[baih777]

That's why I don't use it.
It was not consistent for me.

I now use the RCBS with a three way cutter. Not as fast but consistent.
And I have a Hornady trio trimmer with a RCBS VLD deburr tool.

https://www.amazon.com/RCBS-9351-VLD-Debur-Tool/dp/B000LC7LQ8

to remove the small burr from the trimmer.

[jdubrr]

I'm using one and having the same issues. I thought about buying the Giraud? but youtube also makes that one look easy so I'm not sure if I want to spend the money cause it's way more.

[JackEllis]

I tried the Lee trimmer that's driven with a battery powered drill and fits in a press. It wasn't consistent at all.

Got an RCBS without the power supply. It's better but still "slow".

What I do is size first, then trim to minimum trim length (1.75"). For used cases, you want to bump the shoulder back when you size just enough so the case will chamber. that helps lengthen the time between trimmings.

Even without trying to get the brass shiny, prep is a giant pain in the tush and for me it is by far the least favorite part of reloading, but if you trim the cases to minimum length or even a tad shorter, you won't have to trim them again for at least a few reloadings.

['ol shooter]

I looked at the Giraud, it looks like using three blades to do a complete trim would be appealing.
But then there is the effort needed to hold and trim a case with three blades.
I have a World's Finest Trimmer, does a good job of trimming with minimal effort but I still have to run the case through a motorized prep center to do the inner and outer chamfers.
I wear mechanic's gloves to hold the cases when trimming, my fingers don't get tired nearly as quickly.

[Clickjack]

I asked them for a refund:

I bought the super deluxe package. Picked it up Monday.

Been using the trim it 2 for a couple hours yesterday and a couple today. Checked on the forums, watched all the videos. Not to be a jerk, but I’m very disappointed. Doesn’t operate at all like the review videos I watched. My Lyman universal trimmer is faster and takes way less work.

I’m trimming once fired 5.56 brass Most of it is 1.76(30) or a little less. If I were to try and take a piece that big down to 1.75(95) it’d take over a minute a piece. My fingers are sore, the brass is taking way to long and the length is inconsistent. I’ve found I’m trimming on the Lyman and just chamfering / debuting on the trim it, which is a waste of 450 bucks for me.

I was just expecting about 2 or 3 seconds a case, very precise length and not a ton of physical pressure from me.

Speed and precision is what I was looking for and would be happy to learn I’m wrong.

[FLIGHT762]

For high volume trimming, I've owned the Dillon RT 1200 and the Gracey. I wasn't 100% happy and bought a Giraud.

Best trimmer for me. I have it set up for high volume in 223, 260 Rem., 270 Win, 308 Win. and 30/06. I bought separate cutters for each caliber. Case holders for 308 work for the 260 Rem. and the 30/06 holder works for 270.

It takes about 2 minutes to set up for another caliber / case since cutters are already set in each caliber and the case holders have locked die rings that are set to the trim length. All I have to do is to unscrew the cutter head, screw in the other one and unscrew the case holder and screw in another one.

I sold the Dillon and Gracey, which pretty much paid for the Giraud and all accessories.

The Giraud is like putting a pencil into an electric pencil sharpener. Your finger can get tired when doing a lot of cases. Mechanics gloves help with that.

The Giraud is the last trimmer I will ever buy.

[Clickjack]

For high volume trimming, I've owned the Dillon RT 1200 and the Gracey. I wasn't 100% happy and bought a Giraud.

Best trimmer for me. I have it set up for high volume in 223, 260 Rem., 270 Win, 308 Win. and 30/06. I bought separate cutters for each caliber. Case holders for 308 work for the 260 Rem. and the 30/06 holder works for 270.

It takes about 2 minutes to set up for another caliber / case since cutters are already set in each caliber and the case holders have locked die rings that are set to the trim length. All I have to do is to unscrew the cutter head, screw in the other one and unscrew the case holder and screw in another one.

I sold the Dillon and Gracey, which pretty much paid for the Giraud and all accessories.

The Giraud is like putting a pencil into an electric pencil sharpener. Your finger can get tired when doing a lot of cases. Mechanics gloves help with that.

The Giraud is the last trimmer I will ever buy.

Yep. That's what I was expecting. plan to do a couple thousands more 5.56 at some point. Bought this because it was a little cheaper and could do pistol rounds as well. hope to get my cash back. Weird part is, if I was an engineer, I see an easy fix.

[ZER0_]

I have both the Trim it and the Trim it 2.

The trim it works fine for .223 cases. It doesn't leave the smoothest cut but that gets cleaned up by deburring and chamfering. I get consistent results when trimming cases from the same manufacturer.

The trim it 2 is a disappointing trimmer to use. Making adjustments to cutter and body proved to be very tedious. It took a good while to set it up to trim my .223 cases and once I did, it was very slow and required too much effort to hold onto the case.
The cutting blade also left a burr on the outside of the case which completely defeats its purpose.

Ive been looking at the tri way giraud trimmer

[17+1]