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  • #16
    cassius
    Banned
    • Mar 2009
    • 449

    PRetty sure you aren't going to fit a proper powder charge in the pistol bar.

    Consistency of operation is what you need. That and a little dwell time at the top and bottom of the stroke. I seem to get the most consistent charges with extruded / long-grain powders this way.

    And make sure your powder die depth is adjusted properly to give a full throw on the transfer bar. It's end should be flush with the body of the powder assembly at full stroke.

    and I am once again amazed at folks who spend the money to purchase a progressive press then choose to not use it properly, or at least to its fullest capability. Might as well go back to single-stage operation if you are chasing that level of precision.

    Chicken and the egg thing. Can't tell if reloading draws OCD-afflicted folk, or just exacerbates OCD.

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    • #17
      30Cal
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 1487

      Originally posted by Ugly Dwarf
      I'm a believer in stick with what works for you, but I wonder why you do it this way?

      Seems like the way you're working here is much like an upside down turret press. Not that it's bad, but I'm wondering what benefit this offers?
      I occasionally reject a powder drop. If I did this when I had a case on every station, the normal rhythm of the press would be altered and my next 2-3 drops would also be out of the tolerance that I have set for my match loads.

      Also, one shell at a time makes that normal rhythm a lot simpler, and more repeatable and that is reflected in the constancy of the charges.

      It's a simpler operation and doesn't cost me a lot of time on the runs that I do.
      Last edited by 30Cal; 05-13-2009, 12:08 PM.

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      • #18
        Jicko
        Calguns Addict
        • Dec 2005
        • 8774

        I think I will test some 26.3gr TAC with WIN 55gr FMJBT w/c crimped.

        All my guns have 5.56NATO chamber.... we'll see how it goes... for 26gr TAC, no pressure signs at all... not even a slight primer flattening...
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        • #19
          popeye4
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 1534

          Last edited by popeye4; 05-15-2009, 12:35 PM. Reason: Added clarification
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          • #20
            jwest
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 3958

            For rifles - I use the large powder bar. Dillon sells a special mag bar but I suppose you know that for the bigger stuff.
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            • #21
              Ugly Dwarf
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 1121

              I use the magnum bar for loading cases that take <60 grains. I believe they make an XL Magnum bar that will do <90 grains.

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              • #22
                mvpatriot
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 2178

                this is why having multiple toolheads/powder measures is so nice

                Dillon reloading basics Vids here

                http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=190727

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                • #23
                  scr83jp
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 678

                  we gave friends a dillon rl550b for having us at their new home in pa for a whitetail hunt,their son get one tenth of a grain accuracy with the dillon powder bar.I've never used any of the dillon powder systems on the rl 450 or the rl550b instead I prefer to use the OHAUS DUO 7200 Powder Measure for pistol and rifle

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                  • #24
                    30Cal
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 1487

                    Originally posted by popeye4
                    Another area to look at: I develop a load that is less sensitive to powder charge variation...
                    Great point.

                    I shoot 10rd test groups with half the group having charges 0.3gr heavy and half that are 0.3gr light. If it's about a minute or better at a hundred, I'm pretty happy--I know the ammo I produce can only be tighter.
                    Last edited by 30Cal; 05-16-2009, 12:40 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Ground Loop
                      Member
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 177

                      Large standard bar, H-335, 24.5gr, no problem. Meters nicely.

                      I love the UniqueTek micrometer.

                      I'd rather be at the top end of a small bar than a small travel on a large bar.

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