Unconfigured Ad Widget

Collapse

Best die for de Prime and re size together

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Raiderh20boy
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2017
    • 663

    Best die for de Prime and re size together

    Just wondering what is the consensus opinion on what is the best die to use for removing used primer and re-sizing used 9 mm brass. This would be on a Dillon XL650
    Thanks for you input in advance !!
  • #2
    scotty99
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2009
    • 1184

    Originally posted by Raiderh20boy
    Just wondering what is the consensus opinion on what is the best die to use for removing used primer and re-sizing used 9 mm brass. This would be on a Dillon XL650
    Thanks for you input in advance !!

    Comment

    • #3
      gixxnrocket
      Member
      • Jan 2011
      • 407

      I have a lee single stage that is exclusive to deprime followed by wet tumble. (Lee universal decap for pistol and smaller rifle cases) Rigging a case feed to it would be awesome!
      It's just easier to foul, clean and then relube the single stage than constantly detailing the dillon.

      Comment

      • #4
        kelvin232
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 827

        The Dillon decap resize for 9 is top tier. Cost About $100 right now for a full set on ebay

        Comment

        • #5
          eaglemike
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Jan 2008
          • 3854

          OP - you may know some or all of this. Hope it might help someone that doesn't.

          Lee has come out with the APP press. It looks really handy for sizing and decapping, and can be set up with a case feeder. It can also be set up to swage cases (primer pockets), also using the case feeder.

          Some of the Dillon sizing dies have a larger radius at the bottom of the carbide ring. If one has one of those dies, and badly bulged brass, it can leave the bottom of the case a bit oversize/cause an issue. If your brass isn't bulged or expanded much, this might not matter to you. I've used Lee dies (even in Dillon presses) because that radius was smaller.
          One thing that can help - tumble in walnut media first, with just a bit of liquid car wax in the media. Let the media run for a while to distribute the wax, then put the brass in. This will leave a teeny bit of lube on the case, making sizing easier.
          The 9mm case is tapered a fair bit, and takes more force to form. Straight stuff is easier.
          9mm brass varies all over the place too. 9mm barrels are also all over the place as far as chamber size and bore diameter. Getting the right bullet can make a huge difference in accuracy.
          Last edited by eaglemike; 05-01-2020, 10:47 PM. Reason: clarity
          There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

          It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

          Comment

          • #6
            JagerDog
            I need a LIFE!!
            • May 2011
            • 13310

            They all do the same thing.

            Most of my pistol dies are Hornady.

            Many hate Lee's lock nut.

            Most my rifle dies are Redding (except for adding Lee collet dies for neck sizing)
            Palestine is a fake country

            No Mas Hamas



            #Blackolivesmatter

            Comment

            • #7
              Ruger15151
              Member
              • Feb 2014
              • 259

              Mighty Armory makes the best depriving dies hands down. The pins are centered and virtually indestructible.


              Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

              Comment

              • #8
                Divernhunter
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2010
                • 8753

                I use Dillon dies on my 650 without problems
                A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
                NRA Life Member, NRA certified RSO & Basic Pistol Instructor, Hunter, shooter, reloader
                SCI, Manteca Sportsmen Club, Coalinga Rifle Club, Escalon Sportsmans Club, Waterford Sportsman Club & NAHA Member, Madison Society member

                Comment

                • #9
                  JagerDog
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • May 2011
                  • 13310

                  Originally posted by Divernhunter
                  I use Dillon dies on my 650 without problems
                  That can be said of really about any die.

                  This is commuting at 65 mph in light traffic. VW or Ferrari both accomplish the task equally.
                  Palestine is a fake country

                  No Mas Hamas



                  #Blackolivesmatter

                  Comment

                  • #10
                    divingin
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2015
                    • 2522

                    Originally posted by Ruger15151
                    Mighty Armory makes the best depriving dies hands down. The pins are centered and virtually indestructible.


                    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
                    Someone didn't read the OP...

                    Just about any 9mm sizing die will size and decap. How well they work depends on how well you set it up and how well you get to know its idiosyncrasies.

                    I'd suggest carbide over plain steel (assuming you can still get plain steel.) Not having to lube is nice. I'd also suggest a major brand, as replacement parts are easier to source, should that become necessary.

                    Comment

                    • #11
                      buffybuster
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 2615

                      Originally posted by scotty99
                      My father uses Dillon dies, and they give his 9mm cases a weird Coke bottle shape. Not a fan.
                      Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
                      The Coke bottle shape is actually an indication of good case neck tension in reloaded cases.
                      Luck favors the prepared.

                      The original battle plan did not survive initial contact with the enemy.

                      "The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." -Theodore Roosevelt

                      Comment

                      • #12
                        ar15barrels
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 56907

                        Originally posted by Raiderh20boy
                        Just wondering what is the consensus opinion on what is the best die to use for removing used primer and re-sizing used 9 mm brass. This would be on a Dillon XL650
                        Thanks for you input in advance !!
                        I think Dillon's sizing die is the best.
                        It has a spring loaded decapping pin that throws the spent primer off the end of the pin so the primer can not be drawn back into the case like sometimes happens with non-spring-loaded decapping pins on other brands of dies.
                        Randall Rausch

                        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                        Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                        Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                        Most work performed while-you-wait.

                        Comment

                        • #13
                          Bastard
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 2209

                          Originally posted by ar15barrels
                          I think Dillon's sizing die is the best.
                          It has a spring loaded decapping pin that throws the spent primer off the end of the pin so the primer can not be drawn back into the case like sometimes happens with non-spring-loaded decapping pins on other brands of dies.
                          the Dillon die is really nice, I have the 45 die set & I like the theory behind the spring even though it sound funny when running the press - I use an older RCBS carbide die because that is what I have... I have used to Hornady but I didn't like it, my go to is usually Redding but since I already had the RCBS and it works I didn't see a need to replace it

                          Comment

                          • #14
                            ar15barrels
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 56907

                            Originally posted by Bastard
                            the Dillon die is really nice, I have the 45 die set & I like the theory behind the spring even though it sound funny when running the press - I use an older RCBS carbide die because that is what I have... I have used to Hornady but I didn't like it, my go to is usually Redding but since I already had the RCBS and it works I didn't see a need to replace it
                            Then you also know about how easy Dillon dies are to clean or swap seating stems without losing adjustment due to how the seating and crimping inserts are held in with clips.
                            And how the huge funnel on the seating die will turn a bullet 45 degrees and straighten it before it seats like almost no other brand seater die will.
                            Randall Rausch

                            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                            Most work performed while-you-wait.

                            Comment

                            Working...
                            UA-8071174-1