9mm powder puff load?

[five.five-six]

We are going out shooting in the sticks soon and my 9-year-old wants to shoot the G19. He's shot factory ammo from the 96FS before but I'd like to load up some rounds for him to shoot soft and easy.

Available bullets are 124 FMJRN

Available powders are bullseye, WSF and 296


Or I'll just load up a few starting loads from my Lymans 47th

[Red9]

My guess, bullseye? W296 no bueno.
Wsf? Will work too. Problem is finding the sweet spot, mild yet able to function. Try middle of the load data. If all works including slide lock. Then back down a bit until it won't lock the slide. Somewhere between will be the sweet spot.
Not knowing how tight the Glock is? Round count, mods, etc. I ran 4.0 over 124s of TG and found it to be a good base load. 4.3 of w231 is a nice soft shooter. Sorry haven't tried wsf in 9 yet.
The gun will run dirty. When powder puffing I find the case won't swell enough to seal all the gasses. Ymmv.
Hope this helps?

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[five.five-six]

My guess, bullseye? W296 no bueno.
Wsf? Will work too. Problem is finding the sweet spot, mild yet able to function. Try middle of the load data. If all works including slide lock. Then back down a bit until it won't lock the slide. Somewhere between will be the sweet spot.
Not knowing how tight the Glock is? Round count, mods, etc. I ran 4.0 over 124s of TG and found it to be a good base load. 4.3 of w231 is a nice soft shooter. Sorry haven't tried wsf in 9 yet.
The gun will run dirty. When powder puffing I find the case won't swell enough to seal all the gasses. Ymmv.
Hope this helps?

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4.1 BE under a plated 230 is my standard .45ACP plinking charge

Lymans says start at 3.3 grains BE for a 124 FMJ. I think I'll make 20 3.0 BE rounds and see how it goes.

The G19 has never been fired.

[AJD]

My experience loading 9mms with various powders is that faster powders generally produce softer recoil, while slower powders generally produce more due to more gas volume generated. Your best for a soft shooting load based on the powders you listed would be bullseye. I've not used bullseye however, but tightgroup which is a faster burning pistol powder produces very light recoil, while WSF recoils noticeably more.

[Bumslie]

Use some 100 gr .380 projectiles

You can make some real bunny fart loads with them

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[DueceMcGurk]

9mm: 124 LRN coated, 3.6 TG, FS 1911 w/ 10# recoil spring. Soft, accurate, cycles.

[NeilMo]

Use some 100 gr .380 projectiles

You can make some real bunny fart loads with them

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That would be a great idea when the OP wants to teach his son to clear malfunctions. Even with the OP using 124 grain I don't thing his new Glock will be very reliable with loads at or below minimum charge.

[divingin]

That's the problem with auto's: going to light loads won't cycle the action.

As McGurk said, changing the recoil spring and tuning the load to just work the action will be required to get down to a minimum recoil configuration. Shooter technique will come into play as well (limp-wristing will cause malfunctions when the recoil impulse barely kicks the slide back.)

[Bumslie]

That would be a great idea when the OP wants to teach his son to clear malfunctions. Even with the OP using 124 grain I don't thing his new Glock will be very reliable with loads at or below minimum charge.

Or you can use the correct powder charge and have no malfunctions.



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[Snoopy47]

My experience loading 9mms with various powders is that faster powders generally produce softer recoil

Yep...........

You want a FAST powder with a LIGHT bullet.

Here's my secret for a G17. I load 3.6gn of Vith N320 (it can go as low as 3.4gn but there are reliability issues) pushing a 115gn bullet. To go any lower than that would require I use a reduced aftermarket recoil spring.

So if your G19 is using an OEM recoil spring you can only go down so low.

With a 124gn bullet it's going to be kind of hard to get very low with it while keeping the gun cycling properly. I'm gonna guess your 9 year old doesn't have the same grip strength as you and will have limp wrist problems you wont notice testing the loads in your hands.

[Spyder]

165 grain Xtremes work great for looooow recoil loads and ludicrous slow speeds, and cycle a stock G17/34.

[KevinA.]

I’ve loaded 3.2gn of titegroup with a 147 bullet that are quite soft. Slide locks back and cycles perfect on my G26 and G19. May even be able to load lower than than but I haven’t tried.

[five.five-six]

Or you can use the correct powder charge and have no malfunctions.



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Bums,

I don’t want to put a full power 9mm in the hands of a 9-year-old. Have you seen how small those people are? I want him to enjoy himself, not pay for PTSD therapy for the next 9 years. I’m sure my 3.0BE charges will cycle the gun, I’ve loaded hundreds of .38spcl for my wife’s .357 for steel challenge 2.1BE under 147 SWC and those might even cycle the gun


Still love you (no homo)



Ok, perhaps a little homo but just the tip OK?

[five.five-six]

With a 124gn bullet it's going to be kind of hard to get very low with it while keeping the gun cycling properly. I'm gonna guess your 9 year old doesn't have the same grip strength as you and will have limp wrist problems you wont notice testing the loads in your hands.

[divingin]

Or you can use the correct powder charge and have no malfunctions.



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Did you even read the original post? It was not discussing "normal" loads.