Dillon CP2000

[Faded]

Anyone here own the CP2000? I use my 650 for case prep on 223 and thought about another trimmer for 308. Not sure what the CP2000 does over a 650 for the average Joe reloader.

Thanks in advance

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[C.G.]

From the looks of it, it is just a nice case prep package if you have a lot of cases to prep or have a lot of money to spend. It doesn't seem to be able to do more than the 650 it will just take longer to set up.

[ar15barrels]

The 1050 frame was built with the ability to swage cases where the 650 is really NOT strong enough even though people do swage on it.

I do my 223 case prep on a 650, but I do my primer pocket swaging as part the loading cycle which I do on a 1050 because a 1050 is a pain to clean all the brass trimmings from compared to a 650.

[eric90503]

The 1050 frame was built with the ability to swage cases where the 650 is really NOT strong enough even though people do swage on it.

I do my 223 case prep on a 650, but I do my primer pocket swaging as part the loading cycle which I do on a 1050 because a 1050 is a pain to clean all the brass trimmings from compared to a 650.

Do you think it's worth it Randall? I'm on a 650 for 9 and was thinking of converting the 650 as a dedicated .223 brass processor. Then moving both 9 and .223 to the RL1100's?

[ar15barrels]

Do you think it's worth it Randall? I'm on a 650 for 9 and was thinking of converting the 650 as a dedicated .223 brass processor. Then moving both 9 and .223 to the RL1100's?

I have RL1050’s dedicated to 9mm and 223.

I do my 223 lube/decap/size/trim on a 650 because it’s easier to clean the trimmings out of a 650 vs a 1050.
I tumble the 223 brass clean before moving it to the 1050.
On the 1050, I decap/neck expand, swage, prime, charge, powder check, seat and crimp.

Take note of how I separated the tasks that normally occur in a standard sizing die into discrete steps in different places.
I specifically do the decap and neck expand after the 2nd tumbling so that flash holes are cleared of media.
The Dillon trimmer does not expand necks while it’s sizing so I do that with the 2nd decap.

[eric90503]

Ah, I see... Not going to doubt this process coming from an engineer
So I guess I'll be converting my 650 in the near future.
I heard the old guy at the reloading store retired. If I get my hands on a rl1100 I'll have to make an appointment! Thanks Randall

[Faded]

Thanks for the feedback. I'll keep chugging away on my 650 and keep my eye out for used Dillon presses going on sale after the virus goes away. Seems like lots of folks are buying things.

Is the RL1100 worth the price? The 650 has been a great machine for me and can't think of what it could do more for it to be worth 2x the price.

[ar15barrels]

Is the RL1100 worth the price?
The 650 has been a great machine for me and can't think of what it could do more for it to be worth 2x the price.

Swaging primer pockets.
Priming on the pull instead of push.
More mechanical advantage due to shorter press ram travel.
The 1050 linkage is a big roller bearing so it's smoother under load than a 650.
There is one less motion to loading on a 1050 vs a 650.

650:
Pickup and set a bullet
pull/return handle
push/return handle

1050:
Pickup and set a bullet
pull/return handle

That extra motion, while small, adds motion/time to the total loading cycle.
That time would otherwise be spent loading more ammo.

I typically load about 900/hr on a 650 while I do around 1200/hr on a 1050.
So it's not double, but it's definitely something.
The 1050 is also more comfortable to use.

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Is the RL1100 an updated RL1050 where as the Super 1050 is slightly different?

[ar15barrels]

Is the RL1100 an updated RL1050 where as the Super 1050 is slightly different?

Super 1050 was an RL1050 with additional travel to be able to load 308 length cartridges where the RL1050 would only load 223 length cartridges.
The extra travel gives them less leverage so they do not have as light a touch on the handle as an RL.
I have not played with the RL1100 to know how much travel it has and therefore if it's closer to a Super or an RL.