Looking for a 9mm Crimp Die

[Gio]

Hi guys, I am starting to reload 9mm now and I did not get a kit that came with a crimp die. If anyone locally or abroad was willing to lend one out or sell one I'd appreciate it. I will pay for the shipping if borrowed or bought one. I am using Lee Carbide Dies right now, thanks a bunch

-Gio

[brian01tj]

This is according to Lee's website. I have never used their pistol dies.

"No need for a taper crimp die, plus better accuracy with Lee Dies. Taper crimp dies are used to correct the problems caused by the improper expanding plug design or adjustment. They distort the bullet shank and reduce accuracy. Because the Lee Expander flares the minimum amount, consistent with easy bullet insertion, all of the flare is removed with the bullet seating die, thus eliminating the need for a taper crimp die. "

[domokun]

Dillon's dies are well made but you pay a premium for them. However, they do ship very quickly. I use nothing but Dillon carbide dies in my reloading setup.

[Gio]

This is according to Lee's website. I have never used their pistol dies.

"No need for a taper crimp die, plus better accuracy with Lee Dies. Taper crimp dies are used to correct the problems caused by the improper expanding plug design or adjustment. They distort the bullet shank and reduce accuracy. Because the Lee Expander flares the minimum amount, consistent with easy bullet insertion, all of the flare is removed with the bullet seating die, thus eliminating the need for a taper crimp die. "

Could be true, the cases I was loading tonight did not have a fat lip like the ones I processed. I think I set my die too far, it is pretty bad. I did some dummy rounds just so that I could play with my magazines I have since I have not used them in a while.

I belled them out a little too far, I do not need t right now so I will hold off and order it along with some other things and save on shipping. 100 down another 900 to go

-Gio

[Beelzy]

What is with folks and crimp dies??

They ruin the case mouths if one reloads, and they just don't look right all
smashed into the bullet like that.

[anyracoon]

9mm as well as most auto pistols uses a taper crimp not rolled crimp like revolvers. No crimp can result in bullet set back, causeing to much pressure which can cause a big boom with bad results!

[bohoki]

ive loaded like 2000 with lee dies in 9mm using lee cast bullets sized to .356 and have not had to crimp them they fit in the chamber just fine

with my 45 acp i have had to slightly crimp a few that wouldnt chamber that was with rcb dies next time i see a tube of 45 acp lee dies i'm getting them

[Gio]

So a case like this will feed just fine and also fire just fine? I kinda went too far when resizing them it seems. Forunately I received the brass for free but would not want to toss them out. I have 500 and they look like this when done.









-Gio

[Voo]

The crimp die is not necessary.

For 9mm, I was using the lee factory crimp die(FCD) to resize the brass. This was for my Glock. I'll simply say you do not need to crimp your 9mm reloads. I've shot 1000's of rounds now both crimped and uncrimped and have yet to experience any issues.

The FCD was mainly used for sizing the brass. I run dillon carbide dies and they weren't getting close enough to the bottom. The FCD reached a tiny bit further. You dont have to set the crimp if you use the lee FCD. Another option for sizing would be the EGW. RCBS? has that push through version. While it looks like it would work like nothing else, I REFUSE to use something that slow.

Honestly, if you're picking up range brass where people aren't shooting 'excessive' loads like 9 major, then there's not much you have to worry about. I was only using the FCD to counter the 'bellowing' effect that 9major had on the brass. At this point, I've stopped using 9major brass (or any brass for that matter) that generates a lot of "force" when cranking the handle. If its that far out of spec, I simply toss it out.

IMHO, the regular dies do a good job with sizing. If your ammo feeds fine, then I would say that crimping is unnecessary.

BTW- Nice looking ammo

[Gio]

Thanks Voo those are only dummy rounds for now, I wanted to play with my pre-ban mag again and also play with the dies. I just started reloading my 9mm rounds, so had to make sure it seated just fine. Right now I am making them 1.100" OAL just to be safe, and using 4.1 of Titegroup as well.

-Gio

[bohoki]

whoa someone belled those mouths too much espically for loading fmj

drop them in your chamber and see if they are ok if not you could try dialing out you seat and using the seat die to straighten the walls a touch

[Gio]

What are you on dope? I said I belled them out a little too much, looks like some are better then others. I got about 500 cases for free so if I have to toss them I will. I will be contacting a person near here that has another 1K or so for free. So I might just have to start over then Oh well, at least I know what not to do next time. As far as chambering the dummy rounds I have to wait until Thursday to find out if they will work or not

-Gio

[Beelzy]

All you have to do is tighten the Seating die down a little further (back off the
seater plug stem a tad first) and re-run them through the die.

Do it with one cartridge a little at a time until the flare is gone. Then do the
rest.

(tighten the lock ring on the die so you will have the Crimp setting for the next time.)

[Gio]

All you have to do is tighten the Seating die down a little further (back off the
seater plug stem a tad first) and re-run them through the die.

Do it with one cartridge a little at a time until the flare is gone. Then do the
rest.

(tighten the lock ring on the die so you will have the Crimp setting for the next time.)

That seems to do the trick, I also got better results pulling the bullet then re-pressing the round. Thanks guys, I hope not do do this mistake again. Now if I could only find primers in the near future. I have 900 cases left which are armed, so I have a few to go through before I need more.

-Gio