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  • MarikinaMan
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 4864

    Some reloading bulk observations... time management

    Bulk Depriming -

    Problem - I find that depriming on a progressive, a small number, about 1-2% for me , of cartridges will push up the pin. Do not force it by tightening down on the depriming die. I destroyed about 3 depriming pins before I learned. For some reason, my progressive press will struggle with some cases, but will deprime 98% of the rejects on a single stage.

    Solution - easier answer is throw the cases away. once the depriming pin goes up, pull the case from the press. I put them aside, and run them through the single stage if there is enough of them. If they deprime, I add them to next batch for cases processing. If they don't I chuck'em.

    Note - The usual culprit to this issue is overloaded ammo that had the brass flow over the primer.

    Bulk Resizing 223 -
    Every now and then, a case gets its external surface shaved in resizing and jams up the press. Almost looks like these are a different caliber or were fired on a well worn AR. These can still be pushed into the press, and may still be loaded.

    If I feel enough resistance, I chuck the case. It's just not worth the time to take the sizing die apart and reset it.

    Any how. What I've learned these day compared to before is that I dont try to save every case. I am loading 500-700 rounds per run now, and if I lose 20-25 cases, I'm good. Probably save me 30-45 minutes over all.

    Narrow primer hole -
    if you have swaged the cases and have difficulty getting a primer in, its easier to run the primer hole into a neck deburring tool than to force it. results into less time wasting problems.
    Last edited by MarikinaMan; 01-21-2020, 10:30 AM.
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    JackEllis
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 2731

    [QUOTE=MarikinaMan;23808311]Bulk Depriming -

    Problem - I find that depriming on a progressive, a small number, about 1-2% for me , of cartridges will push up the pin. Do not force it by tightening down on the depriming die. I destroyed about 3 depriming pins before I learned. For some reason, my progressive press will struggle with some cases, but will deprime 98% of the rejects on a single stage.

    Solution - easier answer is throw the cases away. once the depriming pin goes up, pull the case from the press. I put them aside, and run them through the single stage if there is enough of them. If they deprime, I add them to next batch for cases processing. If they don't I chuck'em.

    Note - The usual culprit to this issue is overloaded ammo that had the brass flow over the primer.

    /QUOTE]

    I use a single stage to prep lots of range brass, including cases that have been crimped. What I discovered is that raising the ram with minimal pressure until the pin makes contact and then applying pressure pops loose almost all primers, whereas raising the ram forcefully from the beginning is what tends to bend pins.

    If I can't get the primer loose without applying excessive pressure, then like you I toss the case.

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    • #3
      baih777
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Jul 2011
      • 5680

      I will deprimed 223 and 308 on my progressive. I use the Lee deprimming die.
      If it's once fired brass and the deprimming pin moves up. I set that brass off to the side.
      Once I am done with the rest and have a few others that did not deprimed.
      I get a flashlight and look inside. Sometimes primer hole not centered. Throw away.
      Sometimes it's a burr from the flash hole. Get the primer out and debut the hole.

      When it's brass I have shooting. It's just me going to fast and the brass is shaking.
      Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
      I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
      I'm Back.

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      • #4
        MarikinaMan
        Veteran Member
        • Nov 2015
        • 4864

        I just bought Squirrel Daddy's Hardened and Centering Deprimming Pin for the Lee Decapping Die. I am hoping it will prevent pin collapse, and maybe produce less rejects.

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        • #5
          mrbigsteel
          Member
          • Feb 2014
          • 224

          Originally posted by MarikinaMan
          I just bought Squirrel Daddy's Hardened and Centering Deprimming Pin for the Lee Decapping Die. I am hoping it will prevent pin collapse, and maybe produce less rejects.
          I've had good luck with this product.
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          • #6
            kevins750
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 1376

            I resize AR ammo on a lee pro 1000 with the universal de priming die.

            if its 223 brass and doesn't easily de prime I just toss it. wwwaaaayyyy
            to much 223 brass laying around, to fight primer pockets.

            if its x39 brass that doesn't de prime I set it a side and investigate later.
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            • #7
              'ol shooter
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 4646

              I sit in a comfortable chair in front of the TV and de-cap with my Harvey tool that I have upgraded with cartridge guides courtesy of my RCBS flash hole cutting tool.
              This

              plus this

              equals this.
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              • #8
                MarikinaMan
                Veteran Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 4864

                ^^^nice.

                I deprime, swage and trim on a Dillon 650xl with a dedicated case prep head.

                Right now, I touch a 223 case only three times and it’s loaded. Clean, prep and load.

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                • #9
                  MarikinaMan
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2015
                  • 4864

                  Originally posted by kevins750
                  wwwaaaayyyy
                  to much 223 brass laying around, to fight primer pockets.

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                  • #10
                    ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 57101

                    Originally posted by MarikinaMan
                    Bulk Depriming -

                    Problem - I find that depriming on a progressive, a small number, about 1-2% for me , of cartridges will push up the pin.
                    What decapping die?
                    You mention tightening the decapping stem so I will assume it's a lee or Hornady where the decapping stem is held in a collet and pops up before it will bend.

                    If so, get a better die with a threaded stem.
                    I recommend RCBS as they have some of the thickest stems.
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                    • #11
                      Ruger15151
                      Member
                      • Feb 2014
                      • 259

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                      • #12
                        MarikinaMan
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 4864

                        sweet. that will be my next step if these squirrel daddies dont refine my process.

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                        • #13
                          petree_777
                          Member
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 318

                          Take a look at fw arms decapping die! I use them on my 1050 with my ammobot at 3800 rounds an hour and have virtually no pull backs and even punches right through berdien primers. Thankfully my primer pocket probe picks up the ones that are berdien primers though. The die is self centering so you can crank them out as fast as you want.

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                          • #14
                            kcstott
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 11796

                            I load 5.56 on a dillon 550B if the handle comes to a stop for an unknown reason and i trace the issue to the brass being decapped, it goes in the scrap bin. I have buckets of 5.56/223 I'm not going to worry about the one or two out of a hundred that cause a problem.

                            I also recommend a better sizer decaper

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                            • #15
                              MarikinaMan
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 4864

                              Originally posted by kcstott
                              I load 5.56 on a dillon 550B if the handle comes to a stop for an unknown reason and i trace the issue to the brass being decapped, it goes in the scrap bin. I have buckets of 5.56/223 I'm not going to worry about the one or two out of a hundred that cause a problem.

                              I also recommend a better sizer decaper
                              I use a Lee's universal depriming die. Ive come to realize, it only goes up if indeed there is an issue, which since I paid notice, is between 1-2% only.

                              I resize with the Dillon trim die.

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