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  • jimbo74
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2014
    • 2923

    Help Identify Ammo

    I have some ammo, not sure what it is. Can anyone help based off the headstamp?

    It is either .223 or 5.56, but I don't want to blow up a .223 barrel, if it is 5.56

    It is Federal someting20200114_135654.jpg
    "It is currently CA legal to modify a double-action revolver into a single-action revolver and modify a single-action revolver into a double-action revolver.

    CA DOJ BOF stance on modifying handguns only applies to dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistols and dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistols.
    ^It does not apply to revolvers, manually operated repeating pistols, and semi-auto pistols." ~~ Quiet
  • #2
    Mayor McRifle
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2013
    • 7708

    It’s 5.56.
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    • #3
      Rogerbutthead
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2006
      • 3856

      Has anyone actually seen a gun damaged by firing a 5.56 in a 223 Rem marked weapon?

      Andrew of Lucky Gunner Labs explores the differences between .223 Remington and 5.56mm NATO ammunition - and the results may surprise you!


      Just wondering. I don't think I have been very careful about what I shoot out of what - in terms of 223/5.56 weapons.

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      • #4
        Mr.Caketown
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2011
        • 7362

        Originally posted by Rogerbutthead
        Has anyone actually seen a gun damaged by firing a 5.56 in a 223 Rem marked weapon?

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        I dont think the rifle itself will be damaged. I think the excess pressure would just blow out the casing or primer.
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        • #5
          CoopsDad
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 1710

          I have a Remington 700 from the 1970's chambered in .223 and I have shot tons of 5.56 through it with zero issues. YMMV.

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          • #6
            Rogerbutthead
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2006
            • 3856

            The only thing I remember about firing/reloading for a Remington 700 PSS and a Remington 40X in 223 was that some Chinese 223 brass had loose primer pockets - so I just threw them out when I was reloading.

            I don't recall any problems firing either 5.56 or 223 or even my reloads thru these weapons. AR15s required small base dies - such a pain, that I just didn't reload for my semi-autos, since factory 223/5.56 is/was cheap.

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            • #7
              smle-man
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2007
              • 10593

              Originally posted by Rogerbutthead
              Has anyone actually seen a gun damaged by firing a 5.56 in a 223 Rem marked weapon?

              Andrew of Lucky Gunner Labs explores the differences between .223 Remington and 5.56mm NATO ammunition - and the results may surprise you!


              Just wondering. I don't think I have been very careful about what I shoot out of what - in terms of 223/5.56 weapons.
              The only issue I've experienced shooting 5.56 in a .223 bolt rifle was the harder primers wouldn't always fire on the first strike. Otherwise nada either way.

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              • #8
                Garand Hunter
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 2786

                I have run both thru my Rock River upper match bbl on a Superior lower with no issues at all. Just like .308 win and 7.62X51 thru the same sporter and or military rifles. One thing though, no steel casings !

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                • #9
                  Pofoo
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 1684

                  Originally posted by Rogerbutthead
                  Has anyone actually seen a gun damaged by firing a 5.56 in a 223 Rem marked weapon?

                  Andrew of Lucky Gunner Labs explores the differences between .223 Remington and 5.56mm NATO ammunition - and the results may surprise you!


                  Just wondering. I don't think I have been very careful about what I shoot out of what - in terms of 223/5.56 weapons.
                  Excellent question.
                  I asked a similar question in a thread about .308 and 7.62 Nato. Short answer, no, not 1. But a NASA "engineer" got all butt hurt because he was a "engineer" and "knew" that it would be catastrophic, so he spread a lot of fear, especially for newbies.

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                  • #10
                    jimbo74
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 2923

                    So for sure my stuff is 5.56mm?

                    How can you tell it is and not .223?
                    "It is currently CA legal to modify a double-action revolver into a single-action revolver and modify a single-action revolver into a double-action revolver.

                    CA DOJ BOF stance on modifying handguns only applies to dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistols and dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistols.
                    ^It does not apply to revolvers, manually operated repeating pistols, and semi-auto pistols." ~~ Quiet

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                    • #11
                      pacrat
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • May 2014
                      • 10285

                      Originally posted by jimbo74
                      So for sure my stuff is 5.56mm?

                      How can you tell it is and not .223?
                      The short and quick of the tell is the DATE stamp. Commercial 223 has none. Just as commercial pistol and other rifle calibers don't. Like 9mm and 308.

                      Mil-surp is dated.

                      The crimped primer is also a semi tell. But some commercial ammo is crimped. So not a definitive indicator.

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                      • #12
                        jimbo74
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2014
                        • 2923

                        So that is also a date stamp, what can you tell me about what it says?

                        A .223 wouldn't have numbers on it? Is it 55 gr? Or is that not something you can tell off this?

                        I know I bought this stuff commercially if that matters?
                        "It is currently CA legal to modify a double-action revolver into a single-action revolver and modify a single-action revolver into a double-action revolver.

                        CA DOJ BOF stance on modifying handguns only applies to dimensionally compliant bolt-action single-shot pistols and dimensionally compliant break-open single-shot pistols.
                        ^It does not apply to revolvers, manually operated repeating pistols, and semi-auto pistols." ~~ Quiet

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                        • #13
                          pacrat
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • May 2014
                          • 10285

                          Originally posted by jimbo74
                          So that is also a date stamp, what can you tell me about what it says?

                          A .223 wouldn't have numbers on it? Is it 55 gr? Or is that not something you can tell off this?

                          I know I bought this stuff commercially if that matters?
                          I'm not really up on headstamps to that extent. Yours was made by "FC" Federal Cartridge. It is a military contract ammo. Most likely in 1975. Maybe for a foreign country. Then sold off as "surplus".

                          Bullet weight and specialty type is generally designated by a colored "TIP" on the bullet.

                          Others much more knowledgeable than I, will likely be along to help you sort it out.

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                          • #14
                            SonofWWIIDI
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 21583

                            I didn’t really check for your particular cartridge, but this might be of some help.


                            And perhaps the wiki page
                            Last edited by SonofWWIIDI; 01-17-2020, 4:41 AM.
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                            • #15
                              Dave Hoback
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2015
                              • 656

                              This is “The Big One” of headstamps. I don’t recognize it there, but may have missed it.

                              http://www.municion.org/ Go to “Fuego Central” and choose < 6mm.

                              Is this just ONE cartridge you have, or do you have a supply of it? It just one, I would chuck it. Old ammo that you wasn’t stored correctly could have moisture contamination, etc. I don’t think it will “blow up” any barrel, as long as the bullet is not set back far enough to increase pressure to dangerous levels.

                              If you have a sizable amount of this, and it was packaged correctly, with no discernible corrosion and oal is even among them, it should be fine.

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