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  • OneFunGuy
    Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 480

    H4350 missing in action?

    Been investigating getting into 224 Valkyrie, found some interesting loads using H4350. Since this is a powder I do not have, I started checking it out.
    Not one vendor had H4350 in stock. A couple didn't state if in stock or not, so I placed a fake order, THEN, sure enough, "Not in Stock, no back order.

    I stocked up on everything before the Internet sales shutdown, so have not needed to go looking for anything, but now, thinking of adding a caliber. Not!

    SO. Is there a powder shortage? Are vendors just holding back inventory so as not to be taxed at year end? Is this just an election year thing?

    Lemme know,
    Tommy
    I am not an attorney, but sure, go ahead.

    Earth provides enough to satisfy every mans needs, but not every mans greed.
  • #2
    Divehobo
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 1271

    Imbert & Smithers had some the last time I was there. Picked up two of four they had on shelf.
    NRA Pistol, Rifle, CCW and Metallic Reloading instructor

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    • #3
      divingin
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2015
      • 2522

      Originally posted by OneFunGuy
      SO. Is there a powder shortage? Are vendors just holding back inventory so as not to be taxed at year end? Is this just an election year thing?


      A lot of Hodgdon powdered have been in short supply. Varget, H1000, and Retumbo have also been missing for a while. Rumors of a couple of fires (one in the US, and one at ADI in Australia) have been proffered as an explanation. I think you're coming in on the trail end of the shortage, though, as I've been getting emails from vendors who say Hodgdon stock is coming in again.

      Bruno Shooter Supply was one I got in the left couple of days; might check there.

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      • #4
        highpower790
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2013
        • 3481

        H4350 is a popular,frequently used in the 6.5Creedmoor.Supply comes and goes.Varget is experiencing a shortage as well.
        Speculation on the National Match forum has Hogdon underestimating powder usage.
        Keep it simple!

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        • #5
          OneFunGuy
          Member
          • Jul 2010
          • 480

          I don't shoot any fancy match stuff, as you mentioned. Just the USBR little green rings for myself.
          Thanks for the replies all.
          Last edited by OneFunGuy; 12-30-2019, 4:48 PM.
          I am not an attorney, but sure, go ahead.

          Earth provides enough to satisfy every mans needs, but not every mans greed.

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          • #6
            BrassCase
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Dec 2011
            • 3192

            I started loading for the Valkyrie a couple of months ago. Great results with CFE 223. For the 95 gr try MR2000.
            I'd agree with you but then we'd both be wrong...
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            • #7
              mmlook
              Member
              • Feb 2018
              • 324

              IMR® Legendary Powders now offers four (4) Enduron powders: IMR 4166, IMR 4451, IMR 4955, and IMR 7977. Shooters looking for readily-available alternatives to hard-to-find extruded powders should definitely check out the Enduron line-up.

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              • #8
                kcstott
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2011
                • 11796

                keep in mind IMR4350 is so close to identical you can use H data for it in most cartridges. I buy powder when it's available if i need it or not.

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                • #9
                  OneFunGuy
                  Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 480

                  Thank you BrassCase for the CFE-223 tip. Realizing that H4350 is not available, I started looking into other powders. CFE-223 bubbled to the top in a lot of tests and comparisons.
                  I looked and have some CFE powders, but not the 223. It is available all over the place though.

                  I am shooting for a 88 or 90 grain pill. Need to look further into whether a 6.5 or 7 twist would be best to order.

                  Oh aside, not a big IMR fan, no reason, perhaps just the month I was born.

                  Tommy
                  I am not an attorney, but sure, go ahead.

                  Earth provides enough to satisfy every mans needs, but not every mans greed.

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                  • #10
                    hylander
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 3863

                    Sportsmans Warehouse and Bass Pro both have it in stock
                    Failure is not an Option

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                    • #11
                      kcstott
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 11796

                      Originally posted by OneFunGuy
                      Oh aside, not a big IMR fan, no reason, perhaps just the month I was born.

                      Tommy
                      What would you say if I told you the Hodgdon and IMR come from the same makers.

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                      • #12
                        elk hunter
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 2122

                        I use H4350 in mt 30-06 for my all round hunting load and the difference between it and IMR 4350 except for the fact that H is a Extreme powder is almost none. I get less than 1/4 inch better groups using the H over the IMR, I use the H because of the Extreme feature and that's just about it. Either one would work very well where it's usable. I don't interchange loading data I use powder caliber specific. HTH

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                        • #13
                          Jesse 2
                          Member
                          • Dec 2017
                          • 208

                          Originally posted by BrassCase
                          I started loading for the Valkyrie a couple of months ago. Great results with CFE 223. For the 95 gr try MR2000.

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                          • #14
                            juncali
                            Junior Member
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 60

                            You can find people selling H4350 on GunBroker at a reasonable price.
                            Sorry, I'm late. I didn't want to come.

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                            • #15
                              HUTCH 7.62
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                              • Aug 2006
                              • 11298

                              H1000 has been hard to get for like 5-6 years.


                              With that said.....San Jose Gun Exchange has a lot of “popular” powders in stock
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