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  • jmpgnr24k
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 990

    *Update* M1 Garand 30-06 reload question

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    Last edited by jmpgnr24k; 12-26-2019, 6:53 PM.
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    kcheung2
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    • Aug 2012
    • 4387

    1) For Hornady's 150 gr fmjbt, don't go by the cannelure. It doesn't match anything, neither .308 nor 30-06. Load by oal and ignore the location of the cannelure.

    2) You can't compare 48 grains of X powder to 46 grains of Y powder. You have not specified what powder you are using, nor do you know what powder is in the milsurp round.

    3) 43.5 grains sounds extremely light for any powder in 30-06, that sounds more like a .308 loading.
    Last edited by kcheung2; 10-14-2019, 8:33 PM.
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    • #3
      jmpgnr24k
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2011
      • 990

      Originally posted by kcheung2
      1) For Hornady's 150 gr fmjbt, don't go by the cannelure. It doesn't match anything, neither .308 nor 30-06. Load by oal and ignore the location of the cannelure.

      2) You can't compare 48 grains of X powder to 46 grains of Y powder. You have not specified what powder you are using, nor do you know what powder is in the milsurp round.

      3) 43.5 grains sounds extremely light for any powder in 30-06, that sounds more like a .308 loading.
      Thx for the response.
      I’m using H4895. Don’t know what the milsurp is. My biggest concern is the difference in seating depth since both bullets are the same shape and weight

      And the cannelure actually sits right on. My concern was the cannelure location between the mil and Hornady bullets and the difference in overall length.

      Hornady says 3.185 and that what I’m going by. Starting powder is 43.2grns.

      I’m looking more for functionality than accuracy
      Last edited by jmpgnr24k; 10-14-2019, 8:57 PM.
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      • #4
        Fjold
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        • Oct 2005
        • 22906

        Hornady pressure tested their load at that COAL, so they measured the pressure. You're fine.
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        • #5
          smoothy8500
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 3846

          The Hornady book length is correct with that projectile. Any longer and you can see there is not much bullet for the neck to grip.

          A good functional load may be closer to the middle, maybe even slightly more. Test at least a full 8 rounds to confirm they load and eject properly.

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          • #6
            jmpgnr24k
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 990

            Cool. Thx guys. I guess my question should’ve been is what I loaded according to Hornady “Safe to shoot?” I’ll answer back with test results when I’m done.

            My problem was milsurp rounds were very different from reload info for a rifle that needs non-modern 30-06 loads.

            So I wanted to make sure what I was rolling was safe.
            Last edited by jmpgnr24k; 10-14-2019, 9:55 PM.
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            • #7
              hambam105
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              • Jan 2013
              • 7083

              M1s do best with certain gunpowders that produce desirable
              pressure curve so you don't unnecessarily beatup the op rod.

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              • #8
                kcstott
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                • Nov 2011
                • 11796

                Originally posted by kcheung2
                1)
                3) 43.5 grains sounds extremely light for any powder in 30-06, that sounds more like a .308 loading.
                M2 Ball is a 308 load. This is a Garand load and that means.

                150's need not exceed 2800 fps
                168's need not exceed 2650 fps
                175's Need not exceed 2550 fps

                and this is with IMR or H4895 or the equivalent there of. do not exceed published data for the Garand

                As you can see these are a very mild 308 load even though they are in a 63mm long case

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                • #9
                  kcstott
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                  • Nov 2011
                  • 11796

                  Originally posted by hambam105
                  M1s do best with certain gunpowders that produce desirable
                  pressure curve so you don't unnecessarily beatup the op rod.
                  Correct and there is a very narrow window of burn rates to use.

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                  • #10
                    koehn,jim
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 643

                    You can always get an adjustable gas port and be super safe.

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                    • #11
                      smoothy8500
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 3846

                      Originally posted by hambam105
                      M1s do best with certain gunpowders that produce desirable
                      pressure curve so you don't unnecessarily beat up the op rod.
                      Originally posted by koehn,jim
                      You can always get an adjustable gas port and be super safe.
                      OP is using H4895 within appropriate amounts, so no need for the modified gas plug in this case.

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                      • #12
                        jmpgnr24k
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 990

                        Update at OG post
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