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  • #16
    cg&p
    Member
    • Apr 2017
    • 152

    Originally posted by steelholder
    Is titegroup recommended for loading slightly hotter rounds like +p 45/9mm? Not trying to get too crazy but want to pick up more than one type of powder, what do you guys use?
    i have used TG in the past. never tried for +p loads. i like CFE-Pistol better.

    TG did great in my 40 and decent in my 45, but there was hardly any difference between min/max charge weight and it is filthy nasty to clean up. not to mention it is really smoky/smelly with cast bullets.

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    • #17
      steelholder
      Veteran Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 3328

      Thanks, for the +p loaders, what do you guys prefer? I've been reading about power pistol.
      WTB 3rd Gen SW also looking for a 22 pistol with 6" bbl or longer

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      • #18
        Jason_2111
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 3831

        Originally posted by steelholder
        Thanks I'll sign up. Any preferences in powder for loading 9mm/45?
        Sweet should save me a few bucks here.
        Be advised... Xtreme will send you an email EVERY DAY with a "5% off NOW" sale. Ignore those. Around the last cyber Monday I got like 20k bullets with free shipping and such. Took a while for all of the buckets to show up, but now I'm set for a while.

        I use bullseye for 9mm, 40 S&W, and 45. There are better powders, but it works just fine, meters decently, and a big 8lb keg (or two) goes a LONG way. I picked up a couple way back when on a group-buy, and got a great deal. That's where the economy of reloading really comes in... big amounts of supplies. Buying a pound of powder here and there, 1k primers here and there, boolits as you need them... ends up not being very economical. Ya gotta scale to get the real savings. (Except for 10mm... it costs me half the price of factory ammo for some reason, it's all just way over-priced).

        I load ***-tons of 10mm too, but use Longshot for that.

        I strongly applaud anyone reloading instead of buying ammo now, until this new stupid law gets overturned.

        Oh, if you ever get into cutting down your own brass for 300 Blackout, the absolute cheapest way I've found is buying 5.56mm Lake City blanks from Everglades Ammo. I bought a ****-ton a while back, and it works just fine for 300BLK, never had any issues. (It's a crying shame to see regular LC 5.56 get chopped up, but with blanks, who cares! I haven't seen anyone else sell them as cheap as Everglades does, but keep in mind there will be a fair number of live blanks in any box, even with the primers hit.)

        Stored right, primers will last forever, and don't take up a lot of space.
        Stored right, powder will last a heck of a long time, but there are fire marshal restrictions to how much you can store without a permit... it depends on the county you're in. Where I'm at, I don't think we have any limits, but usually its something like 20 or 25 pounds. Still... having a LOT of powder would make me nervous without an underground bunker.

        American Reloading often has bullets for cheap also. They sell pulled projectiles, and get different stuff in from time to time. Like Xtreme, when you get on the mailing list, you get near daily "25% off of blah-blah" emails. For plink ammo that is jacketed and not just plated, sometimes they'll have very affordable mixes, like a big batch of FMJ's that I got for 40 that were a jumble of 155gr, 165gr, and 180gr. Some guys will just load them all with the same recipe for plinking, but that seems like a bad idea to me.
        The pulls that they sell range from being so crappy you wouldn't want to use them outside of the apocalypse, to ones you can't even tell are pulled.

        Patience is your friend for finding great deals.. and should you end up with way more than you need, you can usually find a home for it in the marketplace.

        Like they always say, "I don't reload to save money, I reload to be able to shoot MORE".

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        • #19
          OpenSightsOnly
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 1557

          I buy bulk from powder valley, very competitive price for primers and powders.

          Have been stocking up since 2010

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          • #20
            steelholder
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 3328

            So far my list includes 1pd of titegroup, 1pd of power pistol, 1pd of 800x, 2k primers for small and large pistol each, Berry's 500 round nose 230 grain, 500 golden sabers 185 grain and 500 124 grain gold dots, along with some 45 super starline brass for my 4506 super build.
            WTB 3rd Gen SW also looking for a 22 pistol with 6" bbl or longer

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            • #21
              balmo
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 1684

              Originally posted by steelholder
              Is titegroup recommended for loading slightly hotter rounds like +p 45/9mm? Not trying to get too crazy but want to pick up more than one type of powder, what do you guys use?
              Used to load for 9 major (much hotter than +p) for competition. My go to powder is Autocomp followed by HS-6.

              Alternative to Titegroup? Try Shooters World Clean Shot. I used Titegroup for 2 years and I am tired of the gunk it leaves especially on pcc rifles. Clean Shot is super clean and very fine; super easy to meter.

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              • #22
                anonymouscuban
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2017
                • 1440

                Originally posted by balmo
                Used to load for 9 major (much hotter than +p) for competition. My go to powder is Autocomp followed by HS-6.



                Alternative to Titegroup? Try Shooters World Clean Shot. I used Titegroup for 2 years and I am tired of the gunk it leaves especially on pcc rifles. Clean Shot is super clean and very fine; super easy to meter.
                I've heard good things about N320 or Power Pistol as alternatives to Tightgroup. The former can use the same load if I recall.

                Tightgroup does run a bit dirty but it's pretty economical and it meters very well. I may try N320 next time I order powder.

                Sent from my SM-G930U using Tapatalk

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                • #23
                • #24
                  steelholder
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 3328

                  Originally posted by Jason_2111
                  Be advised... Xtreme will send you an email EVERY DAY with a "5% off NOW" sale. Ignore those. Around the last cyber Monday I got like 20k bullets with free shipping and such. Took a while for all of the buckets to show up, but now I'm set for a while.

                  I use bullseye for 9mm, 40 S&W, and 45. There are better powders, but it works just fine, meters decently, and a big 8lb keg (or two) goes a LONG way. I picked up a couple way back when on a group-buy, and got a great deal. That's where the economy of reloading really comes in... big amounts of supplies. Buying a pound of powder here and there, 1k primers here and there, boolits as you need them... ends up not being very economical. Ya gotta scale to get the real savings. (Except for 10mm... it costs me half the price of factory ammo for some reason, it's all just way over-priced).

                  I load ***-tons of 10mm too, but use Longshot for that.

                  I strongly applaud anyone reloading instead of buying ammo now, until this new stupid law gets overturned.

                  Oh, if you ever get into cutting down your own brass for 300 Blackout, the absolute cheapest way I've found is buying 5.56mm Lake City blanks from Everglades Ammo. I bought a ****-ton a while back, and it works just fine for 300BLK, never had any issues. (It's a crying shame to see regular LC 5.56 get chopped up, but with blanks, who cares! I haven't seen anyone else sell them as cheap as Everglades does, but keep in mind there will be a fair number of live blanks in any box, even with the primers hit.)

                  Stored right, primers will last forever, and don't take up a lot of space.
                  Stored right, powder will last a heck of a long time, but there are fire marshal restrictions to how much you can store without a permit... it depends on the county you're in. Where I'm at, I don't think we have any limits, but usually its something like 20 or 25 pounds. Still... having a LOT of powder would make me nervous without an underground bunker.

                  American Reloading often has bullets for cheap also. They sell pulled projectiles, and get different stuff in from time to time. Like Xtreme, when you get on the mailing list, you get near daily "25% off of blah-blah" emails. For plink ammo that is jacketed and not just plated, sometimes they'll have very affordable mixes, like a big batch of FMJ's that I got for 40 that were a jumble of 155gr, 165gr, and 180gr. Some guys will just load them all with the same recipe for plinking, but that seems like a bad idea to me.
                  The pulls that they sell range from being so crappy you wouldn't want to use them outside of the apocalypse, to ones you can't even tell are pulled.

                  Patience is your friend for finding great deals.. and should you end up with way more than you need, you can usually find a home for it in the marketplace.

                  Like they always say, "I don't reload to save money, I reload to be able to shoot MORE".
                  Appreciate the write up, thanks. I'll sign up for the reloading sites and hope there's a deal coming around soon.
                  WTB 3rd Gen SW also looking for a 22 pistol with 6" bbl or longer

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                  • #25
                    steelholder
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 3328

                    Does anyone here reload 45 super and can recommend a good vendor for hard cast bullets?
                    WTB 3rd Gen SW also looking for a 22 pistol with 6" bbl or longer

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                    • #26
                      hambam105
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 7083

                      Tightgroup was designed to make very low pressure loads consistent and to be less effected by ambient temperatures.
                      Example: Developing loads on cool February mornings and then running the load over a chronograph in the July afternoon sun.
                      Tightgroup does very well. But....

                      Tightgroup is the only gunpowder that I'm sensitive to and leaves me with a bad taste. Two days after shooting I can still smell
                      it on my hat and shooting clothes. Other than that it's a great powder and I don't know anyone else who has the problem with it as I do.

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                      • #27
                        Divernhunter
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2010
                        • 8753

                        Until you get some loading under your belt stay away from the +P loads. Besides if you are shooting paper regular and mild loads are 1) easier on the gun 2) easier on the brass 3) easier on you 4) cheaper to load. In short there is no need for hot loads for target shooting.
                        Win231/HP-38 is an excellent powder for you to use and meters well. Same powder and 2 different names.
                        A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
                        NRA Life Member, NRA certified RSO & Basic Pistol Instructor, Hunter, shooter, reloader
                        SCI, Manteca Sportsmen Club, Coalinga Rifle Club, Escalon Sportsmans Club, Waterford Sportsman Club & NAHA Member, Madison Society member

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                        • #28
                          hambam105
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 7083

                          Divernhunter.
                          2nd than opinion.

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                          • #29
                            edgerly779
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 19871

                            If your 45s are large pistol primers I have 1k-1500 in sfv at shop. I don't load much with lpp pm me. Have other primers as well I made a 15k buy few years ago of all sizes.

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                            • #30
                              AGGRO
                              Veteran Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 2793

                              Originally posted by Jason_2111
                              Be advised... Xtreme will send you an email EVERY DAY with a "5% off NOW" sale. Ignore those. Around the last cyber Monday I got like 20k bullets with free shipping and such. Took a while for all of the buckets to show up, but now I'm set for a while.

                              I use bullseye for 9mm, 40 S&W, and 45. There are better powders, but it works just fine, meters decently, and a big 8lb keg (or two) goes a LONG way. I picked up a couple way back when on a group-buy, and got a great deal. That's where the economy of reloading really comes in... big amounts of supplies. Buying a pound of powder here and there, 1k primers here and there, boolits as you need them... ends up not being very economical. Ya gotta scale to get the real savings. (Except for 10mm... it costs me half the price of factory ammo for some reason, it's all just way over-priced).

                              I load ***-tons of 10mm too, but use Longshot for that.

                              I strongly applaud anyone reloading instead of buying ammo now, until this new stupid law gets overturned.

                              Oh, if you ever get into cutting down your own brass for 300 Blackout, the absolute cheapest way I've found is buying 5.56mm Lake City blanks from Everglades Ammo. I bought a ****-ton a while back, and it works just fine for 300BLK, never had any issues. (It's a crying shame to see regular LC 5.56 get chopped up, but with blanks, who cares! I haven't seen anyone else sell them as cheap as Everglades does, but keep in mind there will be a fair number of live blanks in any box, even with the primers hit.)

                              Stored right, primers will last forever, and don't take up a lot of space.
                              Stored right, powder will last a heck of a long time, but there are fire marshal restrictions to how much you can store without a permit... it depends on the county you're in. Where I'm at, I don't think we have any limits, but usually its something like 20 or 25 pounds. Still... having a LOT of powder would make me nervous without an underground bunker.

                              American Reloading often has bullets for cheap also. They sell pulled projectiles, and get different stuff in from time to time. Like Xtreme, when you get on the mailing list, you get near daily "25% off of blah-blah" emails. For plink ammo that is jacketed and not just plated, sometimes they'll have very affordable mixes, like a big batch of FMJ's that I got for 40 that were a jumble of 155gr, 165gr, and 180gr. Some guys will just load them all with the same recipe for plinking, but that seems like a bad idea to me.
                              The pulls that they sell range from being so crappy you wouldn't want to use them outside of the apocalypse, to ones you can't even tell are pulled.

                              Patience is your friend for finding great deals.. and should you end up with way more than you need, you can usually find a home for it in the marketplace.

                              Like they always say, "I don't reload to save money, I reload to be able to shoot MORE".
                              The best part of reloading is giving the finger to Govt. It's NONE of their business.

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