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  • Dirtlaw
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Apr 2018
    • 3480

    Annealing

    Annealing helps prevent the neck from becoming brittle and extends the life of the brass. Do you anneal every reload or every x times a cartridge is reloaded? Which method of annealing is preferred? Is the induction method ultimately the best answer if cost is not considered? Is annealing worth the time and effort?
  • #2
    baih777
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jul 2011
    • 5680

    Annealing is worth the effort.
    Try 20 pieces. The drill and socket method with a torch.
    Then decide how much you want.to spend..
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    • #3
      jimmykan
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 3092

      I have this one:



      If you are reloading range pick-up brass, don't bother with annealing: you most likely have more than enough brass to lose/discard, and you won't see enough improvement in accuracy to make it worth the investment in money and time.

      If you are reloading single-headstamp, weight-sorted or single-lot brass multiple (like 5+ times) for a precision rifle, then it is worth annealing the brass.

      Not only does it extend the life of the case neck, it restores a consistent neck tension, assuming the annealing is done correctly and consistently. If you over-anneal some and under-anneal others, it's worse than not annealing at all, accuracy-wise, because you will get inconsistent neck tension.

      If a rifle chamber's neck diameter is more than .004" over the loaded cartridge neck diameter, I would anneal after every firing.

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      • #4
        Dirtlaw
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        • Apr 2018
        • 3480

        Originally posted by jimmykan
        I have this one:



        If you are reloading range pick-up brass, don't bother with annealing: you most likely have more than enough brass to lose/discard, and you won't see enough improvement in accuracy to make it worth the investment in money and time.

        If you are reloading single-headstamp, weight-sorted or single-lot brass multiple (like 5+ times) for a precision rifle, then it is worth annealing the brass.

        Not only does it extend the life of the case neck, it restores a consistent neck tension, assuming the annealing is done correctly and consistently. If you over-anneal some and under-anneal others, it's worse than not annealing at all, accuracy-wise, because you will get inconsistent neck tension.

        If a rifle chamber's neck diameter is more than .004" over the loaded cartridge neck diameter, I would anneal after every firing.

        Great information. Thanks!

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        • #5
          devster55
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 2095

          The annealeez is what I have. The price is not bad for what you get. It’s a very nice easy to use unit.
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          • #6
            robodeer
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2007
            • 561

            Any opinions on salt bath annealing?
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            • #7
              Dirtlaw
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Apr 2018
              • 3480

              Devil on one shoulder; angel on the other

              Had a long talk with Brian over at Orange County Reloading. I've got this awful perfectionist bend and a lot of times I wish I didn't. I think I'm going to go that route.

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              • #8
                jimmykan
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2008
                • 3092

                Originally posted by robodeer
                Any opinions on salt bath annealing?
                Cool concept, but automated feed is the way to go.

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                • #9
                  Distinct_Editz
                  Member
                  • May 2018
                  • 152

                  Originally posted by Dirtlaw
                  Annealing helps prevent the neck from becoming brittle and extends the life of the brass. Do you anneal every reload or every x times a cartridge is reloaded? Which method of annealing is preferred? Is the induction method ultimately the best answer if cost is not considered? Is annealing worth the time and effort?
                  Yes. If you do a more consistent job in your annealing it can also, improve accuracy. I anneal every 5 firings for all rifle brass, and every other time for .50 BMG (Just because the cases cost too must to have them crack on me).

                  I prefer salt bath annealing because it isn't $1,000 to tool up, and it's just as consistent.

                  Ultimately, induction is the best to my knowledge.

                  Annealing is worth the time and effort. I've done the torch method, but you can get into salt bath annealing for as cheap as $100. If you spend ~$240, you can make yourself a PID controller, which will monitor and control you pot's temperature automatically. Very convenient. See here for how to make PID controller: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGOqMyx5kv4

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                  • #10
                    divingin
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2015
                    • 2522

                    Originally posted by robodeer
                    Any opinions on salt bath annealing?
                    If you haven't, go to AMP's website and read their article on salt bath annealing. You'll find it under Media||Articles. Their 3-part series on "Annealing Under the Microscope" has good info as well.

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