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  • #16
    swerv512
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 3076

    what if i fired brass twice and see ZERO case growth. does that mean that i'm headspaced ok- or does it take longer for some brass to stretch than others

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    • #17
      ar15barrels
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      • Jan 2006
      • 57175

      Originally posted by swerv512
      what if i fired brass twice and see ZERO case growth. does that mean that i'm headspaced ok- or does it take longer for some brass to stretch than others
      Are you talking about shoulder length or case length?
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      • #18
        swerv512
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2006
        • 3076

        i was referring to case length, but i do see why you asked. i'll be measuring shoulder length now.

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        • #19
          30Cal
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 1487

          Originally posted by swerv512
          i was referring to case length, but i do see why you asked. i'll be measuring shoulder length now.
          You'll need a gage (case mic or comparitor) to measure the shoulder.

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          • #20
            swerv512
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2006
            • 3076

            already have some on the way!

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            • #21
              bridgeport
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2006
              • 782

              This is exactly why it is a good idea to measure the shoulder. Lets say you pick up a bunch of brass at the range, and it was fired from a few different
              rifles. Each batch of brass will conform to the rifle chamber it was shot out of,
              (of course) but you want this brass to fire properly from your rifle, so you can take a fired casing that came from your rifle, measure, set your dyes to push
              back a couple of thou, and then run some pieces and check them to make sure
              the shoulders are getting sized evenly. Some brass sizes differently than others so always check different types , say Winchester or R-P, to make sure
              things are working right.

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              • #22
                swerv512
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2006
                • 3076

                Oh my GOD!! It's 1am early tuesday morning and after unwrapping my rcbs headspace gauges around 10pm last nite, I finally get it!!

                I averaged 10 once fired cases in my Rem700 .308- averaging 1.6275 (a little tight, but who cares because i'm reloading, right.)

                so i set my sizing die down and after 3 dummy rounds i'm set at 1.625 or so according to my headspace gauges. badaBAM!

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                • #23
                  bridgeport
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 782

                  I would not even attempt to reload without gauges. There is simply not other way of telling where the shoulder actually is when full length sizing. Isn't it
                  interesting how the brass stretches when the dies are not screwed down far enough.... this is no laughing matter though. Even if you fire a precision bolt rifle,
                  it is still imperative to know that you are ending up with properly sized brass for your chamber via the neck sizer, knowledge is your friend.
                  Last edited by bridgeport; 04-28-2009, 6:17 AM.

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