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  • Squ1dward
    Senior Member
    • May 2014
    • 595

    What is a rollsizer and why do I need one?

    Have a 650 that seems to work fine. Why would you need a rollsizer if you have good sizing dies?

    Sorry, still a noob.

    Squ1d
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    tonyjr
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 1448

    As far as I know , you only need for shot shells / shot gun .
    Plastic and paper / cardboard get deformed .
    They are handy if you do wildcats / form your own .
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    • #3
      tanks
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2014
      • 4038

      Originally posted by tonyjr
      As far as I know , you only need for shot shells / shot gun .
      Plastic and paper / cardboard get deformed .
      They are handy if you do wildcats / form your own .
      lol, I hope you were being sarcastic.

      A sizing die does not go all the way down the case. So, if there is a bulge (most prevalent on brass fired from Glocks) on the bottom of the case the sizing die does not get that out.

      A roll sizer gets rid of that bulge.
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        Squ1dward
        Senior Member
        • May 2014
        • 595

        Great thanks. I knew it wasn't for shotshells...

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        • #5
          ar15barrels
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          • Jan 2006
          • 57182

          Originally posted by Squ1dward
          Have a 650 that seems to work fine.
          Why would you need a rollsizer if you have good sizing dies?
          If you are picking up random range brass that's been fired in unsupported chambers and then having problems getting it to fit into your own guns, a roll sizer will help as it sizes further down the case than standard reloading dies.

          If you are not having that problem, you probably won't find a roll sizer useful.
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          • #6
            rodsvet
            Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 225

            Several years ago I bought a push thru die from Redding and it totally removes the bulge that I fire in my Glocks. It is the steel one not the carbide which had problems breaking the carbide ring. It does for me what a roll size would do for about $30.

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            • #7
              'ol shooter
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 4646

              I used a Lee bulge buster for some .40 brass I bought, even though they didn't have overt bulges it did a good job of uniforming the cases. Many would not fit fully into the case gauge before running them through the buster. I used it on some 9mm brass I bought that apparently was fired out of an LE sub gun, the cases had slight striated bulging at the bases. It did the trick on them as well.
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              • #8
                tonyjr
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 1448

                I had so much trouble trying to reload Glock cases that I won't even consider
                owning one .
                A nephew and niece came up from Oxnard with a 5 gallon bucket of cop brass .
                It took most of a Saturday before I was happy with them .
                One shot to left and one really low . Fix them . No I know my gun . Bad news -
                what if you shot someone else's and figure it shoots the same ? Your's needs
                repair -
                I have a bunch of nephews and nieces that reload here and questionable brass
                gets sold .
                I have a couple of bulge busters [ gifts ] and have not used them .
                I gave away the 2 roll sizers I had to a friend in Alturas area - he hunts rabbits
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                • #9
                  SandDiegoDuner
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 526

                  Squ1dward see www.rollsizer.com and www.casepro100.com

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                  • #10
                    prc77
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 2578

                    Originally posted by SandDiegoDuner
                    truth
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                    • #11
                      Jason_2111
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 3831

                      Originally posted by SandDiegoDuner
                      Yup, agreed.

                      I reload and shoot metric ****-tons of brass... a lot through Glocks. The only brass that ever gets "glocked" is .40, and that needs a trip through the push-through sizing die. Never have a problem with 9, 45, or 10mm.
                      I do scrap anything that has the "smile" on it, that's no longer stable, but a slight swell can be fixed easy enough.

                      A roll sizer makes sense if you're making factory reloads commercially... in which case a $30 set of Lee dies isn't what you're going to be using anyways.

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                      • #12
                        evorider
                        Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 304

                        Is it like a Lee Factory Crimp die that seems to smooth out the round when you extract it?
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                        • #13
                          robert101
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2009
                          • 1997

                          I NEVER had a Glock smile on any case from my Gen 4 G27. It is a myth as far as I can tell. I don't go over manuf. max loads either.

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                          • #14
                            pacrat
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • May 2014
                            • 10285

                            Originally posted by robert101
                            I NEVER had a Glock smile on any case from my Gen 4 G27. It is a myth as far as I can tell. I don't go over manuf. max loads either.
                            Not a Glockophile myself. But it is my understanding that it was only an issue with early .40 cal models.

                            My grandson bought an early G-22 that came with original, and Lone Wolf barrels. The original leaves smily bulge on cases.

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                            • #15
                              Pardini
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2014
                              • 1204

                              I consider "Glocked Brass" a generic term for bulged brass.

                              I bought a Case Master Jr decades ago when I bought my first .40 and found range pick up brass wouldn't chamber after I reloaded it. Back then the .40's didn't have fully supported chambers. Glock wasn't the only culprit, but they were a popular choice and got the blame. The Case Master solved the problem.

                              Some time after that I started having the same problem with 9mm brass in a few of my 9's. I don't know if it's from Glocks or the guys shooting 9 Major in their open guns. I bought the 9mm die for the Case Master and it solved the problem. The only exception is CBC brass which still sticks and stops the gun from going into battery.

                              Now all my 9 and 40 brass go through the Case Master before being fed to the 650.
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                              Excellent! I am thinking about it as well and I only have 4 points and an unfortunate "match bump" up to expert classification where I am far less "competitive" with my peers there.

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