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  • devster55
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 2095

    Huge difference in 357 mag load data

    Good friends will come bail you out of jail. A best friend will be sitting next to you in the cell saying damn that was fun!
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    sofbak
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 2628

    I'd do four steps for the first ladder: 15.1, 15.4, 15.7, & 16.
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    • #3
      robert101
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 1997

      Yes, look at it this way. If you start low and work up what is the harm? All guns, reloading supplies, and powder has some variation - even your reloading. So just work up and look for pressure signs along the way.

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      • #4
        devster55
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2012
        • 2095

        Yeah that was the plan just wanted to get a second opinion. Thanks guys.
        Good friends will come bail you out of jail. A best friend will be sitting next to you in the cell saying damn that was fun!

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        • #5
          sofbak
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 2628

          In 8 yrs of reloading, I've found thst starting at the minimum load is usually a waste of time and components.

          Not very accurate, some guns don't cycle (revolvers exempt!), and the overall experience is like kissing your sister-not very enjoyable or productive.
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          • #6
            devster55
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 2095

            I plan on just doing 10 of each up to max. I’ll be shooting these in a Taurus snubnose 357. They are mainly for fun and a big flame. My friend who is also loading the ammo with be shooting them through his ruger Blackhawk which I know will have no problem with the loads. I’m just iffy on the Taurus. It’s not as built like a tank as his Blackhawk.
            Good friends will come bail you out of jail. A best friend will be sitting next to you in the cell saying damn that was fun!

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            • #7
              Catch
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 1327

              Speer data start 13.9 - 15.5 max.
              Last edited by Catch; 05-15-2019, 3:34 PM.

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              • #8
                sofbak
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2010
                • 2628

                H110 is a relatively slow burner on the pistol powder spectrum. In the snubby taurus you won't get max pressures in these load ranges. Pobably the most discernable difference between load increments will be the size and length of the flame front out of the barrel as a lot of powder is going to be blown out the muzzle as it burns.
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                • #9
                  JagerDog
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • May 2011
                  • 15030

                  Doesn't look Yuge to me. 1 gr?

                  Different labs, different powder lots, different primers (and lots), different bullets..........

                  Common wisdom is H110 can be dangerous when downloaded. Personally, I think that's poppycock invented as a solution to other problems.
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                  • #10
                    devster55
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 2095

                    Originally posted by JagerDog
                    Doesn't look Yuge to me. 1 gr?

                    Different labs, different powder lots, different primers (and lots), different bullets..........

                    Common wisdom is H110 can be dangerous when downloaded. Personally, I think that's poppycock invented as a solution to other problems.
                    Normally with pistol powders most sources are close. Just have never seen a difference like this. I also read about the h110 being downloaded and that was my concern. Gonna load them up tonight.
                    Good friends will come bail you out of jail. A best friend will be sitting next to you in the cell saying damn that was fun!

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                    • #11
                      God Bless America
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2014
                      • 5165

                      H110 used to say not to download more than 5%. W296 used to say 10% IIRC.

                      Note the H data you posted is an appx 10% spread. Start at the bottom and watch for for fps and pressure signs. I can flatten 357 primers with book data, so do pay attention.

                      I use Hodgdon data and still have all my fingers.
                      Last edited by God Bless America; 05-15-2019, 5:47 PM.

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                      • #12
                        devster55
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2012
                        • 2095

                        Originally posted by God Bless America
                        H110 used to say not to download more than 5%. W296 used to say 10% IIRC.

                        Note the H data you posted is an appx 10% spread. Start at the bottom and watch for for fps and pressure signs. I can flatten 357 primers with book data, so do pay attention.

                        I use Hodgdon data and still have all my fingers.
                        Good friends will come bail you out of jail. A best friend will be sitting next to you in the cell saying damn that was fun!

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                        • #13
                          AtomicOrange
                          Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 379

                          If you like flames, try some LilGun.

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                          • #14
                            JagerDog
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • May 2011
                            • 15030

                            Originally posted by devster55
                            Normally with pistol powders most sources are close. Just have never seen a difference like this. I also read about the h110 being downloaded and that was my concern. Gonna load them up tonight.
                            I'm not looking at a bunch of data at the moment, but I still say it doesn't seem yuge to me. Not with a slow burning powder requiring in the 16 gr. range.

                            There's also a difference in era. Newer data tend to be more conservative.
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                            • #15
                              Red9
                              Veteran Member
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 2900

                              I run about 15.5 gr of h110. Ymmv. 586 and 686 both 6 inch barrels.
                              And yes you will get flames.

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