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  • Donny1
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2010
    • 2341

    .223 case length when crimping

    Sorry, I know I'm beating a dead horse.

    I'm just starting to load .223 and I will be loading mixes cases for plinking/practice only in an AR.

    I noticed most of the cases are coming out at 1.750 - 1.765 after sizing. I was planning on trimming all to 1.750 but some are shorter, like 1.740.

    Since I plan on a slight crimp I'm assuming the crimp would not be as tight on the shorter cases. Will a .010 shorter case have a noticeably weaker crimp and should I cull those out and seat and crimp them in a different batch? And at what length is the case too short?

    Thanks.
  • #2
    highpower790
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 3481

    No need to crimp,and oal is the same,1.750.
    Keep it simple!

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    • #3
      'ol shooter
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      • Mar 2011
      • 4646

      I ran a test group of same brand once fired cases, all sized and trimmed alike. I crimped 50 and left 50 uncrimped, made no difference on accuracy at 50-100 yards. If they are plinkers, I wouldn't bother to crimp. I use a Lee Factory Crimp Die, works real nice.
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      • #4
        JagerDog
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        • May 2011
        • 14682

        The Lee factory crimp die isn't very length dependent.
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        • #5
          Metal God
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 1839

          The Lee factory crimp die isn't very length dependent.
          ^^^^That^^^^ If you're going to have different length cases . Keep in mind that if some of your cases are .010 shorter then others they are not going to line up in the crimp groove of the bullet the same . I believe SAAMI allows you to trim to 1.740 and is likely what I would do for some plinking rounds .

          I once trimmed some 308 cases down to 1.990 because there was a crimp deformation in the mouths that needed that much removed to remove the defect . They shoot just fine .
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          • #6
            phdo
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            • Jan 2010
            • 3870

            Make your life easier and just do away with crimping.

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            • #7
              RestrictedColt
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2017
              • 773

              I crimped at first because I was lead to believe it was needed, it's not.

              Milspec calls for a crimp and some take that to mean it's important to do it. Milspec also calls for a primer crimp and no reloader does that.

              In some cases a crimp can increase consistency, but most don't notice any difference, plus you're just making plinkers so absolute consistency isn't a big deal. If you were going for perfection the neck lengths would probably matter more than a crimp. I've made & shot lots of uncrimped .223 with various neck lengths.

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