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  • #16
    bigdawg86
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 3554

    Originally posted by Featureless
    Are those proprietary shellholders that only work with that tool? Because I don't need shellholders.
    last I checked they were not proprietary...

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    • #17
      RestrictedColt
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2017
      • 773

      I prime on the press whether I'm progressive loading or doing singles; Hornady LNL AP.

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      • #18
        Divernhunter
        Calguns Addict
        • May 2010
        • 8753

        Lee hand primer and now the RCBS bench mounted hand primer
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        • #19
          Featureless
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          • Mar 2018
          • 2267

          Originally posted by Paseclipse
          +1 for the RCBS APS system. It's nice once you get used to it.
          It does look good; apparently automates loading the strips.


          But there is still the extra step of running the cases thru the hand priming tool or the bench priming tool, rather than using the return stroke on the press while the case is 'undergoing' another operation.

          For example, the Lee Turret press uses that primer arm assembly. You hand feed a primer into the cup, push the primer arm assembly into the slot on the ram, hold it there while bringing the case down onto the primer. So you've completed two operations with one step rather than handling that case twice.
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          • #20
            pdq_wizzard
            Veteran Member
            • May 2008
            • 3813

            I use an RCBS hand primer, I have worn out 2 LEE hand primers.

            I just load up a tray and sit on the couch watching TV and prime away
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            • #21
              baih777
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              • Jul 2011
              • 5679

              Originally posted by bigdawg86
              last I checked they were not proprietary...
              My lee.benchmount and newer RCBS handprimer need proprietary shellholders.
              I should check to see if these interchange.
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              • #22
                cavemanlrrp
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 1009

                Originally posted by Featureless
                It does look good; apparently automates loading the strips.



                For example, the Lee Turret press uses that primer arm assembly. You hand feed a primer into the cup, push the primer arm assembly into the slot on the ram, hold it there while bringing the case down onto the primer. So you've completed two operations with one step rather than handling that case twice.
                I prime and charge rifle cases on a Lee Turret.

                With the auto index removed, position the charging die with Lee auto drum over ram and Lee safety prime set up on press.
                Edit to add. No need to push primer arm in to slot as it slides in as ram lowers into press base.

                Raise ram up and place primer into cup with safety prim. Lower ram part way and insert case. lower ram all the way down and seat primer. Raise ram and case into charge die and charge and while in up position snap another primer into cup. Lower ram part way, remove primed and charged case, insert empty case, lower ram and prime, raise and charge, snap in primer. and so forth. Prime and charge in one stage.

                If I want to trickle up I throw a little light, dump onto scale, trickle up and dump back into case.

                Works for me.

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                Last edited by cavemanlrrp; 02-26-2019, 9:04 AM.
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                • #23
                  Kmai24
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 1220

                  Hand prime RCBS for me. No time restraints and plus my reloading has been broken down into sessions.

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                  • #24
                    Chief-7700
                    Veteran Member
                    • May 2008
                    • 3382

                    Dillon XL-650.

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                    • #25
                      Spyder
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 16851

                      How are you currently doing it, where you need to handle each individual one?

                      I use a Dillon 650, and an RCBS hand primer. The hand primer that takes shell holders is superior to the universal one.

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                      • #26
                        mikeyr
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 1553

                        I tried a bunch of hand primer items and I found that keeping my Rock Chucker and using that to prime was the best. I only load .308 on my single stage so I prime on that press. All other calibers I do on my 650
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                        • #27
                          Featureless
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                          • Mar 2018
                          • 2267

                          Originally posted by cavemanlrrp
                          I prime and charge rifle cases on a Lee Turret.

                          With the auto index removed, position the charging die with Lee auto drum over ram and Lee safety prime set up on press.
                          Edit to add. No need to push primer arm in to slot as it slides in as ram lowers into press base.

                          Raise ram up and place primer into cup with safety prim. Lower ram part way and insert case. lower ram all the way down and seat primer. Raise ram and case into charge die and charge and while in up position snap another primer into cup. Lower ram part way, remove primed and charged case, insert empty case, lower ram and prime, raise and charge, snap in primer. and so forth. Prime and charge in one stage.

                          If I want to trickle up I throw a little light, dump onto scale, trickle up and dump back into case.

                          Works for me.

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                          caveman
                          Thanks. That is correct, the primer arm engages as the ram lowers. Never tried the Lee auto drum for charging, always have used an RCBS powder measure.
                          Last edited by Featureless; 02-26-2019, 12:36 PM.
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                          • #28
                            Featureless
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                            • Mar 2018
                            • 2267

                            Originally posted by Spyder
                            How are you currently doing it, where you need to handle each individual one?

                            I use a Dillon 650, and an RCBS hand primer. The hand primer that takes shell holders is superior to the universal one.
                            Most recently I've been using a Lee Turret with the primer assembly mentioned above. That method does allow two operations (size/decap along with primer seat; or flare case along with primer seat) HOWEVER that method requires you pick up each primer and place it in the cup before lowering the ram.

                            I typically reload in batches of 100; can't get thru a batch without dropping a primer or two getting them into the assembly cup. Rolls under the bench and disappears. Slows down the 2-1 operation process. If there were some primer autofeed at this stage it would make the operation way more efficient.

                            I think this is what I'm looking for.
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                            • #29
                              cavemanlrrp
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2010
                              • 1009

                              Originally posted by Featureless
                              HOWEVER that method requires you pick up each primer and place it in the cup before lowering the ram.

                              I typically reload in batches of 100; can't get thru a batch without dropping a primer or two getting them into the assembly cup. Rolls under the bench and disappears. Slows down the 2-1 operation process. If there were some primer auto feed at this stage it would make the operation way more efficient.
                              .
                              Do you have or have you tried the Lee Safety Prime that attaches to the press? No handling primers.

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                              caveman
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                              • #30
                                waawaaweenie
                                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 659

                                another vote for the RCBS universal, I have one set up for each large and small, I also have an old round Lee.

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