Recognize these ? 7mm Champ - 25 L&W

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I have a couple of case forming dies that I can not identify -- one is 7mm Champ Improved - an 06 base about 1 1/2" long -- The other is marked 06 to 25 L&W about 2" overall case length -- They are not listed in any of my reference books so are possibly some smiths wildcats -- thanks --