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  • croue
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 1255

    Reduced loads with h4895

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    PatC415
    • Nov 2014
    • 979



    36.3g, w/130g SST's
    It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the bottom.

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      croue
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2013
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        PatC415
        • Nov 2014
        • 979

        For sure, I'm glad he took it to the bench too!
        While I haven't personally shot that light of a load with 4895, we've done some well reduced loads with very light bullets. Makes it much easier for the grandkids to shoot.
        It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the bottom.

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          Divernhunter
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2010
          • 8753

          I have used reduced loads for people. My daughter used them when she was young, about 5 years old, in her 257R. I believe Speer lists them for each cartridge.
          A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
          NRA Life Member, NRA certified RSO & Basic Pistol Instructor, Hunter, shooter, reloader
          SCI, Manteca Sportsmen Club, Coalinga Rifle Club, Escalon Sportsmans Club, Waterford Sportsman Club & NAHA Member, Madison Society member

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            clipofblanks
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2013
            • 973

            No load listed for 100 grain for h4895, in this book. 44 charge looks to be the lowest for the 110 bullet.

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              divingin
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              • Jul 2015
              • 2522

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                croue
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                • Jan 2013
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                  croue
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                    sl0re10
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 7242

                    Do you have a shotgun / pistol powder on hand too? I usually use 800x for reduced load rifle rounds. I've used it on 223 and 54r. Can also use non jacketed bullets.

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                      kramynot
                      Member
                      • Jul 2007
                      • 258

                      I've done many reduced rifle loads for my C&R's (Mosin, Enfield, Mauser, MAS, etc.) with cast. There's good information on the castboolits forum and I remember there was a recent article out there in Handloader magazine, but I can't find it anymore.

                      For really light loads, I've found a light cast bullet, about 150-160gr over 7-8 gr of a pistol powder (Bullseye, Unique, etc.) works well for <100yrd plinking and feels like a 22.

                      For heavier bullets with 4895, I've started with the formula (https://imrpowder.com/wp-content/upl...ifle-loads.pdf) and then adjusted from there.

                      Other options that I've just started exploring include using 5744 (there's a formula for that as well), and also 4198 and 4227. The only reason I'm trying these other powders is that I picked them up cheap from someone off craigslist. Otherwise I'd project just stick with 4895.

                      As always, start low and work up from there.

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                        croue
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                        • Jan 2013
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                          PatC415
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 979

                          Awesome! Glad that worked out for you and the boys. Hopefully they give you decent accuracy as well!
                          It's not the fall that kills you, it's the sudden stop at the bottom.

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                            otteray
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2006
                            • 3246

                            Originally posted by croue
                            Not really interested in cast bullets for this application. I was very happy with how the 4895 worked, but I have lots of 4198 as well. I’ll look for that formula as well. Thanks!


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                            I've used that formula many times in the past and have had good results; but with cast lead.
                            That formula is not intended for other powders in bottleneck cases. I doubt you will find a similar one for 4198.
                            Just stay at 60% or more to prevent a jacketed bullet from getting lodged in the bore when using 4895. Cast is easy to remove; jacketed is somewhat more difficult.
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