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  • cdrxls
    Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 369

    Think about this before getting a press

    this is for those interested in reloading but don't know what kind of press to start with. should you start with a single-stage press, turret press, Dillon 550B press or a Dillon 650XL.

    consider the Dillon AT-500, or Dillon RL450.... you can find them used and upgrade it into a RL 550B later when you can afford to get the other pieces one at a time.

    so why not get a 550B or 650XL right away?

    1. $$$$, i couldn't afford to get a Dillon 550B or 650XL back then
    2. experience: some people don't want to go into a progressive press right away, they want to go slow in learning how to reload, the AT-500 can be used as a single stage or turret press.
    3. Have you actually seen someone use a 550 or 650XL, initially you're impressed, stop and think how complicated it is especially when you're new to reloading....size, deprime, prime, index, powder, bell, powder check, bullet seating, crimping, indexing, all at one time??????????confused...???
    3. timing: $$$ and experience goes hand in hand with the timing of getting a press, so when the timing is right to get a progressive press, they are ready to upgrade the AT-500 to a 550B.

    if you're new to reloading,
    Here's a review of the AT-500

    read about the presses features,
    the article and price may be dated, but the info is still current and applicable

    i started in 1983 with Lee classic loader kit, then a rockchucker, then bought a Lee 1000 progressive, then another, then another, after dealing with it for a few years, i sold everything and started with the Dillon 650XL but remember, i was already into a progressive press and needed one that was better.

    the AT-500 is for those who are new to reloading, want to start with a single-stage/turret and then upgrade the same press into a progressive later.
    Buy 1 press and 1 time only......

    Hope this helps..


    to the mods, if this is the wrong place, please advise.
    Last edited by cdrxls; 05-04-2009, 10:07 AM. Reason: edit text
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    cdrxls
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    • Mar 2008
    • 369

    bump:

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    • #3
      checkenbach
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 1468

      Also too, think about getting parts and new items for your new toy.
      I bought a Hornady LNL AP(for reasons undisclosed), it's a great press, but waiting for shell plates(and other B.O. items) is getting old. I got my second one after a little over a months wait. One more to go, and I'll be able to load for all the centerfires I have.

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      • #4
        TKM
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        • #5
          Jicko
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          • Dec 2005
          • 8774

          Why not get the 650? Auto indexing, case feeder option, and powder check.
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          • #6
            xxdabroxx
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            • Apr 2008
            • 3392

            When being taught math in school, did they jump you straight to trigonometry and graphing calculators or did they teach you how to add first?

            The progressive press seems to be the graphing calculator of reloading.

            If your not broke, i would recommend starting with the above setup or a rock chucker then move up to a progressive, if not start with a Lee. Learn the ropes one step at a time. i dont think that anyone would argue that. I think you need to understand exactly what is going on on each step of the process.
            Last edited by xxdabroxx; 04-04-2009, 11:29 AM.
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            • #7
              thebloodsonthewall
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 1143

              I started reloading on a Dillon 550B and it worked out well. After being shown how to use it and reading a reloading manual I figured out how everything worked and then I was good to go. I now have a single stage press next to it for sizing and other things.

              I am sure it would help to start with a single stage but I don't think it is necessary.

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              • #8
                Santa Cruz Armory
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                • Feb 2006
                • 4357

                I have a new Hornady LnL AP w/ ez-ject in the works. I'll add the case & bullet feeder later.
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                • #9
                  Jonathan Doe

                  My first reloading machine was Dillon 550b. I had a great time with it. Now I use Forster single stage press for rifles, and Dillon Square Deal for the pistols.

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                  • #10
                    mike100
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 2507

                    Aren't the dies different on the square deal/450? single stage is fine, but buying dies twice isn't.

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                    • #11
                      C.G.
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                      • Oct 2005
                      • 8254

                      Originally posted by BLFD1
                      I have a new Hornady LnL AP w/ ez-ject in the works. I'll add the case & bullet feeder later.
                      I like mine Hornady LNL AP EZject a lot. And just ordered the case feeder and last shell plate I needed from Natchez Friday, which should speed things up considerably.
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                      • #12
                        GW
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                        • May 2004
                        • 16078

                        Originally posted by xxdabroxx
                        When being taught math in school, did they jump you straight to trigonometry and graphing calculators or did they teach you how to add first?

                        The progressive press seems to be the graphing calculator of reloading.
                        I respectfully disagree I started with a Lee turret press but would have jumped on a Dillon if I had the $$ back then. Knowing what the individual steps do is important but I don't see why a diligent newbie would not be successful starting out with a progressive. The only thing that matters is being conscientious and if you aren't, you'll blow up your gun just as easily with a single stage press as you will with a progressive.
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                        • #13
                          cdrxls
                          Member
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 369

                          Thanks for the comments and inputs, i hope this will help those interested/new to reloading some ideas on what to get.

                          This press actually opened my eyes to it's versatility, i'm considering getting rid of my Lyman turret press and some single-stage presses.

                          i'm liking the fact that it has a universal shellplate and i don't have to get seperate shellplates(conversion kits) for 223 or 308.

                          some like to size and deprime as 1 step and then tumble clean it (remove lube), and have priming as another step (either hand prime or auto)

                          you can make one complete round with 4 pulls of the handle, then clean the round (wipe off the lube) later.

                          just things to consider
                          Last edited by cdrxls; 04-05-2009, 10:10 PM. Reason: edit text

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                          • #14
                            ar15barrels
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                            • Jan 2006
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                            Any dillon press can easily have the auto-index feature dis-abled if someone wants to use it as a turret press.
                            Then you can buy the progressive press right in the beginning, but start learning to reload by using it as a single stage press.
                            When you feel like you are ready to load in a progressive manner (maybe after 200-300 rounds of single stage use), you just need to re-install the indexing parts.
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                              cdrxls
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                              • Mar 2008
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