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  • moyneur
    Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 261

    308 subsonic loads

    Playing around with Trail Boss and X-Treme plated bullets with my .308
    whent out to put some down range Fraday and had alot of fun, literally thought I was shooting a .22.
    Anyone else tried this? Pretty cool.
    13.6 grain of IMR Trail Boss, X-Treme 150 grain FP .308
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    rm1911
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    • Jan 2013
    • 4073

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    • #3
      sl0re10
      Calguns Addict
      • Jan 2013
      • 7242

      Originally posted by moyneur
      Playing around with Trail Boss and X-Treme plated bullets with my .308
      whent out to put some down range Fraday and had alot of fun, literally thought I was shooting a .22.
      Anyone else tried this? Pretty cool.
      13.6 grain of IMR Trail Boss, X-Treme 150 grain FP .308
      I've done it with my Mosin rifle (54r) and my 223.

      It is fun. Also; if you ever end up with a bad batch of primers that are too soft (or a box of plated bullets) it is something you can use them with.

      Was using 800x.

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      • #4
        waveslayer
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 1728

        Lots of fun. Try doing 300 black out, that's fun too. It can be hard to get gas guns to run smoothly at times

        My wife thinks I only have 3 guns

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        • #5
          jimmykan
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 3093

          Other suitable powders for reduced rifle loads:

          Alliant Red Dot
          Alliant Promo
          Hodgdon Titegroup
          Hodgdon Clays
          IMR 700-X
          Ramshot Competition

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          • #6
            robert101
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 1997

            I'm all for reduced 308 loads. I have typically shot H4895 really low (about 35 grains) below manual starting loads. They actually cycle my LR308 well. And, accuracy was very close to 1 MOA in a semi-auto.

            I'm curious about the accuracy of the plated bullets. Please led some experience here. The cheap bullets I shoot are the Hornady 150 FMJBT.

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            • #7
              Spyder
              CGN Contributor
              • Mar 2008
              • 17128

              9 grains of trailboss with any 165-200 grain bullet is my go-to 308 sub load. Very fun.

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              • #8
                sl0re10
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2013
                • 7242

                Originally posted by robert101
                I'm all for reduced 308 loads. I have typically shot H4895 really low (about 35 grains) below manual starting loads. They actually cycle my LR308 well. And, accuracy was very close to 1 MOA in a semi-auto.

                I'm curious about the accuracy of the plated bullets. Please led some experience here. The cheap bullets I shoot are the Hornady 150 FMJBT.
                I hit the 100 yard gongs consistently at angeles with a Mosin / 54r using xtreme plated bullets. Haven't tried more specific targets.

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                • #9
                  rsrocket1
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                  • Feb 2010
                  • 2769



                  Not 100 yard shots, this was only at 50 but it was fun!

                  This 5 shot group was shot out of my 24" Remington 788 bought brand new for $119 in 1978.

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                  • #10
                    nedro
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 4130

                    Can I ask a silly question?
                    I want in on the fun so here goes.
                    What is "fun" about going subsonic on large caliber rounds?
                    I'm ready and willing to load sub sonic. I just want to know why.
                    On my 6.8spc, I'm always pushing the upper limits to find out how fast I can go before swipes, so the other end of the spectrum intrigues me.

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                    • #11
                      Kokopelli
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 3400

                      Originally posted by rsrocket1


                      Not 100 yard shots, this was only at 50 but it was fun!

                      This 5 shot group was shot out of my 24" Remington 788 bought brand new for $119 in 1978.
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                      • #12
                        sl0re10
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 7242

                        Originally posted by nedro
                        Can I ask a silly question?
                        I want in on the fun so here goes.
                        What is "fun" about going subsonic on large caliber rounds?
                        I'm ready and willing to load sub sonic. I just want to know why.
                        On my 6.8spc, I'm always pushing the upper limits to find out how fast I can go before swipes, so the other end of the spectrum intrigues me.
                        It is almost like having a whole different gun.

                        People buy 22LR uppers for ARs. Its is something like that but just by using different ammo.

                        Also; less punch to the shoulder... as in none. They are probably good training rounds for new people...

                        Last of all; it is a way to use reloading stuff that won't work for regular rounds. Ended up with plated bullets that can't handle regular rifle powder? Or soft primers that would pierce with regular ammo recipes? Or some shotgun or pistol powder you don't know what to do with? Well; here you go. I had two of the three above so I started looking for subsonic recipes. Then when I started to use the rounds I found I enjoyed using them.

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                        • #13
                          nedro
                          Veteran Member
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 4130

                          Interesting.

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                          • #14
                            Spyder
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 17128

                            That red dot load is interesting. I've got a dozen lbs of it I've been trying to use up in 9/40/38/45.

                            308 would make it go quicker.

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                            • #15
                              Jta
                              Member
                              • Jun 2017
                              • 113

                              Is there published data for reduced loads? Asking because I can’t find any info in my manuals

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