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  • #16
    StoneTower
    Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 231

    Originally posted by 30Cal
    http://www.sierrabullets.com/bullets...ient-rifle.pdf
    Sierra 155gr BC=0.450

    Nosler, the world's finest bullets, ammunition, rifles, & brass. We manufacture Partition, AccuBond, E-Tip, Ballistic Tip, Custom Competition and much more.

    Nosler 155gr BC=0.450

    I've shot a couple hundred through my old 1:10" barrel and they did well. They also do well out of the 1:12" that I'm using now.
    What kind of gun and what was the charge and COAL?

    Thanks,

    David

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    • #17
      30Cal
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2006
      • 1487

      M1A w/ Kreiger 1:12" heavy. I'll have to look up the charges, but I've used Varget & surplus 4895. They probably aren't all that meaningful though as I use GI brass and my chamber is very tight (I have to use an SB die and a SMK is against the lands at around 2.82" OAL)--I'm typically more than 1gr less than most people to get the same velocity.
      Last edited by 30Cal; 03-27-2009, 9:52 AM.

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      • #18
        EBR Works
        Vendor/Retailer
        • Dec 2007
        • 10492

        I have a 2 month old DPMS upper with 24" 1:10 stainless heavy barrel on a POF lower. I have tried the same 155 gr Nosler bullet as follows:

        Once fired CBC brass. All FL re-sized in a RCBS comp die and trimmed to 2.015 with a Possum Hollow trimmer then deburred, chamfered, primer pocket uniformed and flash hole deburred on an RCBS Trim Mate. CCI 200 primer used since I could not find CCI BR2s. Charges thrown from a RCBS Chargemasters Combo. Bullet seated with an RCBS comp die to a COL of 2.800 with no crimp.

        I loaded Varget at 43, 44, 45, 46 and 47 gr with 44 gr giving the best 5 shot group at 100 yds of .714". The 47 gr load had similar results but was quite compressed.

        I'm headed out tomorrow with a batch loaded at 44 gr and 46.5 gr with CCI BR2 primers to see if I can do better and see how they do at 200 yds.
        Last edited by EBR Works; 03-28-2009, 12:26 PM.


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        • #19
          Jicko
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          • Dec 2005
          • 8774

          impacto, for the record, if possible, post your MV, and its ES and SD.

          My past data showed that #200 and #BR2 are of similar MV, but the ES and SD are halved. Also, accuracy of the #BR2 is better (obviously... lol)
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          • #20
            EBR Works
            Vendor/Retailer
            • Dec 2007
            • 10492

            Originally posted by Jicko
            impacto, for the record, if possible, post your MV, and its ES and SD.

            My past data showed that #200 and #BR2 are of similar MV, but the ES and SD are halved. Also, accuracy of the #BR2 is better (obviously... lol)
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            • #21
              EBR Works
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              • Dec 2007
              • 10492

              As a follow-up to my post above, I got out today to see if I could improve my groups with the NOS 155 projectiles. The winds were variable at about 15 knots. My best group at 100 yds was with 46.5 gr of Varget and the same brass prep as mentioned above.

              .886"-.308"=.578"

              I need a calm day and a better trigger than the RRA NM and I'm hopeful that I can get these groups into the .3xx range. We'll see.

              Last edited by EBR Works; 03-29-2009, 8:28 PM.


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              • #22
                ar15barrels
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                • Jan 2006
                • 57136

                Originally posted by impactco
                .886"-.308"=.578"
                Measure a single bullet hole in the exact same piece of paper and you will find that the holes don't measure 0.308".
                You need to know what a single hole measures in the exact paper before you can subtract it's diameter to come up with group size.
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                • #23
                  EBR Works
                  Vendor/Retailer
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 10492

                  Ok. Measured hole size is .302 so that makes the group .584". Thanks for the tip!


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                  • #24
                    EBR Works
                    Vendor/Retailer
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 10492

                    I shot these through my new chrono today and here are the results:

                    Load: 155 NOS HPBT, 46.5g Varget, CBC brass, CCI BR2 primers. COL 2.800

                    Alpha Master chrono positioned 10' from the muzzle.

                    1: 2909
                    2: 2921
                    3: 2904
                    4: 2928
                    5: 2920
                    6: 2916
                    7: 2921
                    8: 2911
                    9: 2916
                    10: 2918

                    High Velocity: 2928
                    Low Velocity: 2904
                    Average Velocity: 2916
                    Extreme Spread: 23.90
                    Standard Deviation: 6.85

                    Elevation: 3300 MSL
                    Temp: 71 F
                    Wind: 10-15kt crosswind

                    Due to the wind, groups were no better than .610" at 100yds. I have to get to the range in the early morning sometime when it's calm!

                    Last edited by EBR Works; 04-13-2009, 3:51 PM.


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                    • #25
                      30Cal
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 1487

                      That seems pretty fast for only a 20" barrel. Near max?

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                      • #26
                        ar15barrels
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                        • Jan 2006
                        • 57136

                        Originally posted by 30Cal
                        That seems pretty fast for only a 20" barrel. Near max?
                        No kidding.
                        He must have thick brass.

                        I run 46.5gr of Varget under Sierra 155 SMK's in Federal GMM brass and get 2840fps from a 24" barrel.
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                        • #27
                          EBR Works
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                          • Dec 2007
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                          These numbers are from a 24" barrel. I would assume the higher velocity was due to the 3000' elevation at Ojai.


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                          • #28
                            ar15barrels
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                            • Jan 2006
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                            Originally posted by impactco
                            These numbers are from a 24" barrel. I would assume the higher velocity was due to the 3000' elevation at Ojai.
                            Muzzle velocity does not change with elevation.
                            Bullet drop changes with air density.
                            Increased altitude usually gives you reduced air density.
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                            • #29
                              EBR Works
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                              • Dec 2007
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                              Originally posted by ar15barrels
                              Muzzle velocity does not change with elevation.
                              Bullet drop changes with air density.
                              Increased altitude usually gives you reduced air density.

                              Understood.

                              The load is near max with slight primer cratering but no primer flattening.

                              I also tried some 175 Sierra HPBT loads through the chrono and saw 2720fps average with 44gr of Varget. There was some primer cratering with all of these loads ranging from 42-44gr of Varget.

                              The same bullet fired during the same range session from my Garand with 49gr of IMR4895 and Winchester brass yielded a 2728fps average which is slower than I expected.

                              It must be the CBC brass.
                              Last edited by EBR Works; 04-13-2009, 3:02 PM.


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