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  • Kokopelli
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 3421

    Found some old 45 ACP ammo - pics!

    These seem kinda rare. Are these collectable?

    First is a full box of Winchester 185 grain Silvertips. Did Winchester discontinue these?





    Next is a partial box of some Remington shot shells loaded with #12 . That's tiny. It must be "lead dust". Think this will develop enough energy to cycle a 1911-A1?







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    baranski
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2015
    • 3852

    I'd be real interested to see that Remington patterned.
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    there's plenty of sissies and snitches roaming the hallways here.

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    • #3
      kcstott
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      • Nov 2011
      • 11796

      I’ve got milsurp ball ammo that goes back to the 1920’s

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      • #4
        Bumslie
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        • Oct 2011
        • 5358

        I have the dies to make 45 acp shotshell from 308 cases.

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        • #5
          I Swan
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2010
          • 8770

          The Silvertips probably aren't rare or valuable looks like packaging from the 1980's. I believe they are still in production but check Winchester website. Those snake loads probably will not cycle and will lead up your bore quite a bit.

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            divingin
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2015
            • 2522

            I still have half a box of silvertips in 357Mag. From the mid-80s. No idea whether they're still in production.

            I doubt the 45 shotshells will work the action; the 22 snake shot stuff never did. The pellets are small to get a decent pattern at any kind of distance. I wouldn't really count on those loads doing much in a repeatable, consistent sense.

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            • #7
              Kokopelli
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 3421

              Just checked the Winchester site. They don't have Silvertip 45 ACP ammo listed. I wonder how it would compare to a similar weight God Dot or Golden Saber. I couldn't find any gel tests on YT for the 45 Silvertip.
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              • #8
                kcstott
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                • Nov 2011
                • 11796

                Originally posted by Kokopelli
                Just checked the Winchester site. They don't have Silvertip 45 ACP ammo listed. I wonder how it would compare to a similar weight God Dot or Golden Saber. I couldn't find any gel tests on YT for the 45 Silvertip.
                Silvertips fell out of favor due to over penatration and lack of expansion. Just use them as everyday ball loads. Not worth anything really. Snake loads are a novelty at best. Best snake load is a 230gr fmj

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                • #9
                  colt11
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 697

                  Riverside County Sheriff issued Sikvertips for years, great ammo, but not rare, and kinda tarnished, great for testing out your 45 for hollow points reliablity.

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                  • #10
                    hermosabeach
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                    • Feb 2009
                    • 19679

                    In the early years of Front Sight, many instructors kept a round of snake shot chambered. Ball in the magazine but snake in the chamber.

                    Rattlesnakes- aka buzz worms were killed daily for the first 4-5 years so the snake shot made sense.


                    I don’t think the snake shot will reliably run the slide on a semi auto.
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                    • #11
                      Kokopelli
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 3421

                      Originally posted by hermosabeach
                      In the early years of Front Sight, many instructors kept a round of snake shot chambered. Ball in the magazine but snake in the chamber.
                      That brings back an old memory. Back in the mid 70's, I was an armed security guard in Palm Springs. We all had 38 S&W revolvers. Our office 'gun guru' carried a round of snake shot in chamber #1. He said if a BG didn't get the hint from a round of snake shot to the face, the rest of the rounds would work.
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                      • #12
                        mikeyr
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 1554

                        Originally posted by Kokopelli
                        That brings back an old memory. Back in the mid 70's, I was an armed security guard in Palm Springs. We all had 38 S&W revolvers. Our office 'gun guru' carried a round of snake shot in chamber #1. He said if a BG didn't get the hint from a round of snake shot to the face, the rest of the rounds would work.
                        That is why my wife has snake shot in chamber 1 of her .357. Her logic is that gives her a little leeway on the first shot, she will be nervous, likely scared and might miss, the snake shot allows her to feel safer knowing something might hit the bad guy and give her time to properly aim the second shot if its needed. Hey, its her logic, I can actually understand it but my gun is properly loaded from round 1.
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                        • #13
                          omega
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                          • Jan 2005
                          • 3106

                          The Winchester ammo looks like 1980's vintage "Flying Ashtrays" I have some like that in .380 thats from 1984 - 85

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                          • #14
                            I Swan
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                            • Sep 2010
                            • 8770

                            Originally posted by omega
                            The Winchester ammo looks like 1980's vintage "Flying Ashtrays" I have some like that in .380 thats from 1984 - 85
                            The flying ashtray was a CCI/Speer bullet in 45 ACP a 200 grain JHP with an extremely wide cavity. I never heard of any other bullet called that. I think they are long discontinued. I may have a box somewhere still. I had a partial box that was loaded in to Blazer aluminum cases that I recently shot up.

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                            • #15
                              Notpc
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                              • Nov 2016
                              • 3766

                              Silvertips are still available. I still have a box that looks like yours. Bought it when I bought my Officer model.

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