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Definitely, I was lucky enough to pick up a bunch of brass, bullets, presses, powder throwers and scales for $300 just recently to start my journey into this and buying just dies, powder, media, tumbler, trimmer and a few other things just kept me under $500 so i can't imagine starting from scratch with $500 and getting a progressive.
Anyways, good luck! And hope you enjoyLast edited by Adub; 07-28-2010, 9:38 PM.Comment
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Umm...you did read the part about "he has $500 to spend"...didn't you?
That may work if you have a Mercedes/Rolls-Royce reloading budget, but not everyone has that, including the OP. This guy needs a Honda Accord, not a Rolls-Royce.By the way, I am a Dillon user, so I can only vouch for the Dillon. But I have heard many good things about the Hornady LNL as well.
"San Francisco Liberal With A Gun"
F***ing with people's heads, one gun show at a time. Hallelujah!
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http://www.liberalsguncorner.com (podcast)
http://www.youtube.com/sfliberal (YouTube channel)
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I originally bought the RCBS single stage combo press starter kit. It came with most of the stuff to get started. I believe I still needed to get calipers and a case tumbler.
Looking in the Midway catalog, that would put him around $500"While it may come as a surprise to the authors of the legislation, most semi-automatic pistols do in fact come with a pistol grip"Malthusianism is the idea that population growth is potentially exponential while the growth of the food supply is arithmetical at best.Comment
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Skip the Mickey D's for a month, skip the weekly haircut, and the kids will probably benefit from the loss of junk food snacks, and a movie or two, for a few weeks! (But they will always remember "Daddy" behind his reloading bench, teaching them how to reload).
Save a few extra shekels, and go with the XL650.
Look forward, never look back, and take the plunge.
I know the OP stated that $500.00 was his limit. But if he has $500.00 smacker-roo's...then I'm sure he can come up with an extra $200.00 or $300.00 more for the "Big Boy".
Discipline, brother.
Go all the way.
Progressive or bust!!!
That's my story, and I'm running with it.
In Christ: Raymond
PS: I like the car analogy. (I like to read analogies. It kinda lets me see how folks mind's work). But the difference in vehicles can be a $20,000 or $30,000 difference. Whereas the progressive press difference will only be $300 to $500 difference...depending which direction you want to take. And you can always add a few extra luxury features down the road without breaking your wallet.
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You're a crackup, RaymondMillbrae! :-D
However, we're still not sure if that $500 budget is just for his press, or if it's for all the other gear that needs to go with it (tumbler, media, calipers, decent scale, at least two good load books, etc.). If that's his *total* budget, then all that other stuff can add up pretty quickly.
ArcLight, can you clarify on this point?
But regardless of his budget, I'd still suggest a cheapie Lee single-stage (the $30 one) to start with, to see if he actually likes the hobby. Up-front out-of-pocket expense does matter (it sure did to me, I ain't rich). Even if he goes for the Rolls--er, Dillon progressive, he'll still find a little single stage press like that handy to fix errant rounds and such."San Francisco Liberal With A Gun"
F***ing with people's heads, one gun show at a time. Hallelujah!
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http://www.liberalsguncorner.com (podcast)
http://www.youtube.com/sfliberal (YouTube channel)
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Watch the videos of the 550B
Then watch the videos of the XL650
Not sure why the 550B is so popular. For a little more the XL650 makes my life easier
by far"While it may come as a surprise to the authors of the legislation, most semi-automatic pistols do in fact come with a pistol grip"Malthusianism is the idea that population growth is potentially exponential while the growth of the food supply is arithmetical at best.Comment
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My gunsmith friend, who has both models, indicated that caliber changes are much faster on the 550B, IIRC. The 650 changeovers aren't bad but are involved enough for owners to tend to have more than one machine just to avoid the changes.Last edited by at_liberty; 09-15-2010, 4:15 PM.Comment
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The only real difference in caliber change outs between the RL-550B and The XL-650 is the priming system.
XL-650 to feed the: .45ACP's Les Baer Concept V, Ruger SR 1911, Ruger Nightwatchman,custom built Colt M1911, Springfield .45ACP Loaded.. 9MM SA Range Officer,Ruger P-85, Springfield Stainless 9MM loaded, SA 9MM 5.25" XDM, Springfield 9mm Stainless Range Officer, STI double stack .45ACP.
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XL-650 to feed the: .45ACP's Les Baer Concept V, Ruger SR 1911, Ruger Nightwatchman,custom built Colt M1911, Springfield .45ACP Loaded.. 9MM SA Range Officer,Ruger P-85, Springfield Stainless 9MM loaded, SA 9MM 5.25" XDM, Springfield 9mm Stainless Range Officer, STI double stack .45ACP.
IDPA A41750 Safety Officer
NRA Certified RSO
"Stay out of the deep end of the pool; correct the problem with your credit card, not your dremel!"Comment
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550B case feeder only does pistol calibers, another point to consider
Don't know why, but that is what is posted on their website
For the priming system for the XL650 it is easier to buy the whole assembly i.e. have a larger primer system, order another assembly for small primers. Rather then change out the parts. I believe the assembly is around $75-$80
Once you have both assemblies, caliber changes are pretty fast.
Definitely at least get a second tool head
The XL650 auto indexes, the 550B does not, the XL650 has a 5th station for a powder checkLast edited by Malthusian; 09-15-2010, 7:10 PM."While it may come as a surprise to the authors of the legislation, most semi-automatic pistols do in fact come with a pistol grip"Malthusianism is the idea that population growth is potentially exponential while the growth of the food supply is arithmetical at best.Comment
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None of that matters if his budget doesn't let him afford the press, everyone. We still don't know if that $500 is his total reloading budget or just for the press."San Francisco Liberal With A Gun"
F***ing with people's heads, one gun show at a time. Hallelujah!
http://www.sanfranciscoliberalwithagun.com (reloading info w/ videos)
http://www.liberalsguncorner.com (podcast)
http://www.youtube.com/sfliberal (YouTube channel)
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