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  • 3DGearGuy
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Jun 2012
    • 804

    How do you load rifle Ammo?

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  • #2
    longrange1
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2015
    • 1032

    heres what i do...


    1) decap with lee universal decapper
    2) wet tumble...250-300 cases for 1 hour
    3) lube...with lanolin and 100% alcohol
    4) full length resize
    5) trim with lee quick trim and drill...same different tool
    6) deburr and chamfer...my trimmer does this
    7) check brass with case gauge...never owned a case gauge...i never seen the need if your FL sizing and trimming
    8) run flash hole uniformer...dont do this any more
    9) run primer pocket uniformer
    10) wet tumble again...im guessing to clean off the lube?...i use alcohol and a micro fiber rag...tumbling after deburring is pinning the mouths and may be causing small issues you dont know or realize
    11) prime with lee hand primer...same different tool
    12) charge with Lyman gen 6...same different scale
    13) seat bullet
    14) verify OAL with calipers...tips vary so much you should be checking base to ogive not over all length

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    • #3
      edgerly779
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Aug 2009
      • 19871

      Way to much prep unless shooting for sub moa.

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      • #4
        koehn,jim
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 643

        I do my annealing before the full length resize. I also do not uniform the flash hole and primer after the first time. I rarely have to trim, I use the RCBS x-dies and they really work. I also do my load development on a single station press, once I have it worked out I use the Dillon progressive press.

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        • #5
          kcstott
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Nov 2011
          • 11796

          Here's how I do it.

          starting with new unfired unprimed Peterson brass

          All brass is run through a forester benchrest precision full length sizer first. lanolin and alcohol mix for lube
          Hand primed on an RCBS hand priming tool using BR primers
          Powder charges are droped to within .05 grains on an A&D milligram scale with auto drop/trickle kit
          Bullets are seated with a forester Micrometer seater and checked with a bullet comparator. They are seated to my selected depth depending on the bullet used, I have multiple bullets available to me in my load binder so if I run out or can't immediately get one bullet i have options.
          Cartridges are individually wiped off with alcohol to remove lube and placed in cartridge box

          Now there are some changes for once fired brass.
          I neck size only with a forester neck bushing bump die from this point out until the should needs a bump and that take a few firings to do.
          I also anneal every other loading
          I also do not clean my brass for at least three firings

          Trimming is done when cases need it



          Things I don't do and see no need to do

          I don't sort brass by weight, uniform primer pocket or the flash hole I spend good money on good brass to not have to.
          I do not wet tumble, shiny brass looks good in a box but will not help your group size.
          I do not sort bullets by weight or bearing surface.
          I have yet to make up my mind if bullet tipping is worth the investment in tooling for a minor increase in BC
          Last edited by kcstott; 05-12-2018, 6:15 AM.

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          • #6
            tonyjr
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2015
            • 1448

            I don't do pression .
            1st lube , then deprime , size neck [ maybe every 5 - 6 reloads
            get fl resizing ]
            then the cases are cleaned - primer pocket flash hule and case
            run on prep center [ RCBS and neck brushed ]
            Run thru a tube of cases on load master - check powder drop and OAL .
            I put them in plastic ammo boxes [ which gun on label ]
            I seldom have more than 10 reloads before putting in ammo box .
            I have seen people with 1 , 2 gallon buckets and ammo cans with
            loose rounds - I am afraid the bullets would can be knocked loose .
            Not saying those people are wrong - it is just not me .
            life member - CRPA and NRA
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            • #7
              Mesa Defense
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 2172

              Originally posted by kcstott
              Here's how I do it.

              starting with new unfired unprimed Peterson brass

              All brass is run through a forester benchrest precision full length sizer first. lanolin and alcohol mix for lube
              Hand primed on an RCBS hand priming tool using BR primers
              Powder charges are droped to within .05 grains on an A&D milligram scale with auto drop/trickle kit
              Bullets are seated with a forester Micrometer seater and checked with a bullet comparator. They are seated to my selected depth depending on the bullet used, I have multiple bullets available to me in my load binder so if I run out or can't immediately get one bullet i have options.
              Cartridges are individually wiped off with alcohol to remove lube and placed in cartridge box

              Now there are some changes for once fired brass.
              I neck size only with a forester neck bushing bump die from this point out until the should needs a bump and that take a few firings to do.
              I also anneal every other loading
              I also do not clean my brass for at least three firings

              Trimming is done when cases need it



              Things I don't do and see no need to do

              I don't sort brass by weight, uniform primer pocket or the flash hole I spend good money on good brass to not have to.
              I do not wet tumble, shiny brass looks good in a box but will not help your group size.
              I do not sort bullets by weight or bearing surface.
              I have yet to make up my mind if bullet tipping is worth the investment in tooling for a minor increase in BC


              KC,

              How do you like the Peterson brass?

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              • #8
                Kwikvette
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2015
                • 3704

                I only use new brass (Nosler) and pretty much follow kcstott's process except, I do wet tumble my brass after it's been fired once.
                Originally posted by longrange1
                my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
                Originally posted by XDJYo
                Full size. Stubbies are for sissies.

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                • #9
                  3DGearGuy
                  Vendor/Retailer
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 804

                  Originally posted by edgerly779
                  Way to much prep unless shooting for sub moa.


                  Why shoot if not for accuracy?


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                  • #10
                    Dave626
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 1038

                    I use Peterson and lapua brass, so I skip duburr the flash hole.

                    Anneal all brass
                    Wet trumble
                    Dry
                    Dillion spray lube, *least effect on headspacing
                    Body die
                    Lee necksizer die, *neck concenticity under .002 reading
                    Use microfiber rag clean up the lube or wet trumble again
                    Check coal, trim it if necessary
                    Prime with my press, more consistent for me
                    Powder weight with A&D scientific scales
                    Seating with Redding competition seating die.

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                    • #11
                      Bainter1212
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 5936

                      Nobody crimps here?

                      I crimp for my magazine-fed semis. Last step of all.

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                      • #12
                        kcstott
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 11796

                        Originally posted by Mesa Defense
                        KC,

                        How do you like the Peterson brass?
                        If Peterson Makes it, I won't use anything else.
                        Consistent weight, sized, trimmed, chamfered, cleaned. neck tension is very consistent. primer pockets are tight. noticeably tighter than lapua

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                        • #13
                          kcstott
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2011
                          • 11796

                          Originally posted by Bainter1212
                          Nobody crimps here?

                          I crimp for my magazine-fed semis. Last step of all.

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                          Only if you want to really screw up your accuracy.

                          I only crimp heavy magnums and I mean African dangerous game magnums or I crimp tube feed guns, 30-30 and the like.

                          Mt .416 Rigby loads 400 grain Hornady DGX bullet over 100 grain of 7828


                          Well I take that back a bit I do crimp .223/5.56 but I don't consider that rifle accurate and don't really care what it eats. It's in camp for two reasons, something cheep to shoot with low recoil for any new shooters that may show up, and self protection.

                          But no Match ammo gets a crimp yet. I say Yet as I have a new project cooking and it may require a crimp, And 1874 Shilo Sharps Quigley in 45-110. Those rounds need a crimp to insure proper ignition of the powder.
                          Last edited by kcstott; 05-13-2018, 7:42 AM.

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                          • #14
                            JackEllis
                            Veteran Member
                            • Nov 2015
                            • 2731

                            I follow the same routine as the OP with a couple of exceptions: wash in hot water, Dawn and Lemishine instead of wet tumbling. First to remove range grime, second to remove case lube. I don't run cases through a gauge. I check length periodically but generally speaking once the die is dialed in it produces consistent rounds.

                            I do weigh each charge individually (sometimes twice, once on a beam and again on an electronic) and load on a single stage press because it's all for rifle.

                            Since I'm handling the cases many times I have lots of opportunities to see defects and problems

                            I want reasonable accuracy but I also don't want to spend all my time hand loading at the expense of flying, fishing and hunting so one MOA is good enough for me.

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                            • #15
                              tonyjr
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 1448

                              Bainter1212
                              The crimping die is always there , weather it needs or not .
                              life member - CRPA and NRA
                              All ways listen - after you can say I new that

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